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, amakri Isubie, your
neighborhood word trader.
I believe in the power of words
, for it is the unit of creation
.
I trade in words to profit my
world.
Yep, I'm back.
Hi, good morning, good
afternoon, good evening, good,
everything.
Wherever you are at this
particular instant on the
surface of the earth, listening
to me and seeing me, always
exciting coming into this space.
Yep, the World Cafe space, you
know the positivity here invites
more positivity.
You know this is the space
where we come in to lean on one
another's experience, to forge a
positive path.
Yep, I'm with my coffee.
How are you?
I ask that question not
rhetorically, I ask it with an
intent, because I care, we care
in this space.
That's why we come to share
positivity, to uplift you.
So I'm back in the space.
Coffee is my thing, don't mind
me.
I guess I've told you one or
two things about coffee I have.
I won't go over it again this
time.
Let me just quickly finish this
and we go into what we have for
today um, an amazing, an amazing
, amazing, amazing cup of coffee
.
Yes, so what are we going to be
doing today?
Uh, just want to take a
comfortable position.
Then we start, and before we do
anything, I want to share a
thought with you.
That's not what we're going to
be talking about, but it's going
to be a precursor to what we'll
be talking about.
Uh, today I saw a quote or a
line from ellen yes, elon Marx,
you know him.
He's the billionaire or the
trillionaire now, something I
consider we should begin the
show with, and I'll tell you
what we'll be talking about
today.
He said my mind is a storm.
Some people think they can be
me.
They cannot Like he's always
restless.
Some people think they can be
me, and they cannot like he's
always restless.
His ideas are amazing.
So his mind is a stump.
Can you imagine someone's mind
being a stump?
So what goes through his mind?
His thoughts, are faster than
the speed of light, if you want
to say that.
So it brings me to what I want
to share with you today.
It stems from a movie I saw a
while ago some, I think, months,
or a year or two ago and I'm
going to put this in a frame the
war of ideas.
You know you've heard this
thought before A good number of
us.
You must have come across it.
Ideas rule the world.
Yeah, ideas rule the world.
Most of the things we see all
around us, if not all, are
people's ideas.
They have the courage to follow
through, not minding the naming
and shaming and all of that.
And the world is always at war
with itself when it comes to
ideas itself.
When it comes to ideas, you
either see new thinking versus
old thinking, new school or old
school versus new school.
You see entitlement mindset
versus ownership mindset.
These two forces always at each
other's neck, so to speak, and
all of these frames our world.
So I came across this movie.
A good number of us must have
seen it.
If not, then listen.
The Current War.
Yes, this was, you know, the
advent of the birthing of
electricity.
You know, discovering the power
of electricity.
Discovering the power of
electricity, harnessing nature's
energy in form of light, and
all of that.
Then there came a time when we
had Thomas Edison and Nikola
Tesla.
I've talked about Nikola on the
show before.
I had this amazing mind who
came to share.
He calls himself Nikola Tesla
Espad and he is.
He did a lot.
There's a movie he's working on
and check out for it.
So Nikola had a thought.
Thomas Edison most of us must
have come across him when you
talk about the light invention
of the light bulb.
With the help of Latima and the
rest of them, he came up with
the idea of the DC direct
current.
He championed it as Thomas
Edison, while Nicola championed
the alternating current.
So there came a time when there
was this war, nicola was
talking about alternating
current.
So there came a time when there
was this war.
Nikola was talking about
alternating currents.
Why, edison, nikola Tesla?
I mean, a good number of us
don't know Tesla at this age,
apart from those of us who spent
some time to read.
Once I called his name, they
said it's not the Elon Musk.
No, excuse me, his car is
called Tesla.
Quite all right, but there's a
man called Nikola Tesla.
He was a Serbian-American.
Most of his works are still top
secret in the US.
His thoughts were amazing, out
of this world, author-wordly, if
I must use that word.
So he promoted alternating
current and there was a big war.
He was backed by George
Westinghouse.
So let me give you how the war
turned out.
So direct current versus
alternating current, so the DC,
as it's called for short, edison
preferred that.
That was his quote-unquote, his
technology, which flows in a
singular direction.
Why it worked well for shorter
distances.
It faced limitations in
transmitting over long distances
as required by power, so DC
current just works for a short
distance.
But Nikola talked about AC,
that's alternating current, this
solution which periodically
reverses direct current.
It allows it to be transmitted
over long distances with less
power loss, making it more
efficient for widespread use.
So you see, now and again,
nicola, as at that time was a
younger person, age-wise,
compared to Edison, who was
older and, would I say
quote-unquote, had more
experience and would I say quote
unquote, had more experience.
So the competition and tactics
Edison waged a strong campaign
against the alternating current,
including the public relations
battle to portray it as
dangerous.
His tactics included
demonstrations where he showed
alternating currents, potential
dangers, even using it to
electrocute animals, you know,
to show its hazards.
Edison and western houses
companies clashed in con I mean
in contracts, including notable
projects like the lightning of
the 1893 chicago world's fair,
where western house and World's
Fair, where Westinghouse and
Tesla's AC system ultimately won
.
So the end result over time,
alternating current proved to be
more practical for mass
distribution due to its
efficiency over long distances,
you know, eventually became a
standard for electricity
distribution, while the DC
current as in DC I beg your
pardon direct current found its
place in certain applications,
you know, particularly where
stable voltage was essential,
such as in electronics.
So the legacy, the war of
current, set the stage for
modern power systems and its
highlights, you know, one of the
earliest industrial
competitions were innovation,
publicity and all of that and
strategy shaped technology
adoption as a global I mean on a
global scale.
The rivalry also cemented
Tesla's legacy as an inventor,
while Edison's reputation as an
industrialist and promoter of
new technology continued to grow
.
So if you look at these two
things today you know the DC and
AC you see that with making DC
a comeback in high voltage
direct current, they call it
HVDC.
In high voltage direct current,
they call it HVDC applications
for modern power grid.
The war of current exemplifies
the technological battles that
have been, you know, that have
driven innovation and shaped
industries.
Now let us see Now when you
look at the war closely, the war
when I say the war, I guess
your mind is going that way
they're fighting with arms and
all of that.
So let us go.
So you see, war of currents.
It was a generational war.
What do I mean by that?
Expressed through ideas, a
powerful way to understand the
deeper dynamics at play here.
Edison and Tesla represented two
different approaches, not only
to technology but to thinking
and risk-taking, reflecting the
shift in how society approached
invention, innovation and even
the perception of what was
possible.
So, new thinking versus
supposedly old thinking, the
progressive versus the fixed, so
to say.
So now, the old God versus the
new way of thinking.
Edison was deeply invested in
the world of practical,
incremental inventions.
His approach was rooted in
maximizing the reliability of
existing technologies and
building a stable business model
around them, often favoring
what already he knew, as in I
don't want to change it, it
works.
Like the Americans would say if
it's not broken, don't fix it.
So like which was exemplified
in the DC power.
But Tesla, by contrast,
embodied a visionary,
forward-looking mentality that
welcomed radical innovation.
So Tesla's AC system was complex
, requiring a new way of
thinking about electricity's
potential to reach far beyond
the limitation of direct current
.
His approach was high risk,
favoring long-term gains over
immediate profit, and challenged
the status quo.
Yep, he did.
Why, why not?
Why should we, if not so
economic interest and, uh,
established power.
Edison's business model was
deeply tied to infrastructure
and financial investment Already
, you know, poured into that DC
system.
They've invested so much.
So switching to AC, it was a
threat Not only to Edison's
inventions, you know, but the
financial interest.
So you see there's a larger
skin here of those who had
backed him, so representing an
older generation of established
inventors.
So Westinghouse's support
because he really supported
Tesla, you know, the AC system
and all of that attracted a
newer generation of investors
willing to take big risks on
revolutionary ideas that could
redefine energy's reach, making
a shift towards big picture
thinking and what have you?
Future-centric technology.
Now we had ideology clash also,
so the generational aspect
extends to ideas on innovation
itself.
Ellison exemplified the
traditional, you know old model,
traditional way of, you know,
patent-heavy,
commercially-driven inventions
that turned incremental
improvements into profitable
businesses.
Tesla, however, pursued bold
scientific discoveries, focusing
on the science behind
electricity than you know on
immediate commercial success.
It wasn't looking at the
commercial success, but he was
like he projected into the
future, so to say.
So this divergence echoes the
age-old clash between those who
prioritize refinement within
known frameworks and those who
believe in leaping beyond the
known boundaries of technology.
Tesla's ideas pointed towards a
more open-source spirit.
That resonates with how many
innovations, or rather
innovators, approach technology
today.
So the public perception and
cultural shifts.
The war of currents also tapped
into public fears and excitement
about technology.
Tapped into public fears and
excitement about technology.
Edison sensationalized
demonstrations of AC as an
alternative.
Current dangers appealed to an
audience that was cautious of
new technology.
The older generation, I must
say, like can you imagine if
this can happen to animals,
what's going to happen to us?
So a mindset more typical of
older generation that tend to
favor gradual change.
Tesla's vision for ac as
alternating current, on the
other hand, attracted a growing
fascination with uh, what
electricity could achieve in the
future, sparking the
imagination of a new generation
ready to embrace high-impact
transformative ideas.
So this clash of ideas
ultimately symbolizes a cultural
transition.
You know we'll get to that very
soon.
Like I said, we have these two
mindsets working in every
society.
In every given time there's
this clash.
You may say clash of titans, if
I may use that word.
So the war of current wasn't
merely a debate over electricity
.
No, it was beyond that
electrical standard.
It was also a reflection of
shift from cautious,
profit-driven development to
daring, scientific-driven
exploration.
Tesla's vision triumphed in
shaping the electrical
infrastructure, but Edison's
model of invention left an
enduring legacy on the business
side of innovation.
In that sense, the war of
currents stands, you know, one
of history's most poignant as in
examples of a generational
divide expressed in the language
of technology.
Now let us look at something the
power struggle.
So when you look at the
narrative, there's a parallel
here.
When you compare it to what is
happening today in our own
generation, there's this
generational war.
It often revolves around the
clash of ideas, values, vision
for the future, cyclical nature
of technological revolutions,
where each generation disrupts
established norms.
You know, to push society
forward, we often face
resistance, just like you guys.
What are you talking about?
We're used to this.
Where you guys bringing all of
this from?
So let us see something here.
Let's draw a parallel the power
struggle of a new age, the
generational war of ideas.
So in the late 19th century, the
war of currents was fought with
electricity wires, brilliant
minds Thomas Edison was there,
nikola Tesla became symbolic
warriors, you know, for their
respective causes.
Edison championed the direct we
saw it, direct current.
He represented a safe, proven
path.
Tesla, on the other hand,
advocated, you know, for
alternating current.
You know this embodied a daring
vision.
Yeah, a daring vision.
Like what are you talking about
?
It challenged the limitations.
Their clash was more than just
a battle over electricity
standard.
It was a generational war over
ideas.
Yep.
So reflecting, brother, shifts
in values, ambition, belief in
the power of technology to
reshape the world.
So today, let us bring we're
drawing a parallel.
Today you know the echoes of
that historical battle.
You know AC.
Now Millennials and Gen Z.
They find themselves in these
ideological standoffs over
issues that will shape the
future Climate technology,
artificial intelligence, work
ethics and even the very
structure of society.
So by comparing these two, the
past and the present, you see
the conflicts.
So we see the timelessness of
generational divides in tech,
space and larger cultural
landscape.
Now let us look at it the drive
for stability versus the hunger
for change.
So Edison's pragmatic,
incremental approach to DC.
It reflect the mindset of an
older generation invested in
stability and credibility.
His focus was on making
reliable improvements to
existing technology, much like
today's boomers and Gen X, who
often prioritize steady careers,
proven business models and
gradual change.
We call them the old school.
Then look at Tesla's
boundary-pushing approach, with
his AC as an alternating current
.
By contrast, it speaks to
millennials and Gen Zs, as we
call them today, hunger for the
transformative change these
younger generations have grown
up with technology and global
crisis that call for radical
solutions, whether through clean
energy, climate tech, ai.
You know.
Just as Tesla saw the potential
of alternating current to reach
beyond the limitations of
direct current, so millennials
and Gen Z push for technology
that can scale and solve
problems on a global level.
Rick's aversion versus
embracing disruption.
So when you look at the war of
currents, level Ricks Aversion
versus Embracing Disruption.
When you look at the War of
Currents, edison took a
calculated approach, more or
less hedging his bets on the
safety play safe of direct
current and launching public
demonstration to point AC as one
dangerous and something
reckless.
His method could be likened to
the approach of today, what we
have today.
You know of those today who are
like cautious about the rapid
adoption of new technologies,
wary of the implications of
artificial intelligence.
They are coming.
Ai, ai the bots, they are
coming.
Ai, ai, the bots, they are
coming, all concerned about the
gig economy's instability.
On the other hand, we look at
how Tesla represented the spirit
of disruption.
You know the way the
millennials and Gen Zs will look
at it today, especially with
their embrace of emerging fields
like cryptocurrency, clean
energy, decentralized finance.
The younger generation is
willing to challenge long-held
norms and take risks,
prioritizing innovation over
immediate security, a mindset
that often replaces them as odds
, you know, with older
generation worry of untested
technology.
Am I losing you there?
Am I?
I don't think so.
I know you're here with me, all
right public relations and the
power of perception.
So when you look at what Edison
did, you know when he took up
the campaigns against AC, you
know he's like no, these points
were a long-standing tactic in
generational conflicts.
Yes, come up with a PA campaign
.
You know controlling the
narrative.
So Edison manipulated public
opinions, making AC look bad and
dangerous.
So today's tech-savvy younger
generation public opinions
making AC look bad and dangerous
.
So today's tech-savvy younger
generation use social media to
challenge the narrative, yes, of
established institutions.
They are wielding new tools
viral content, digital advocacy,
grassroots movement, you know
to sway public opinions and
often exposing perceived
hypocrisies in traditional
systems around climate,
work-life balance and wealth
distribution.
So the older generation,
meanwhile, used more established
media and networks to assert
the importance of tried and true
models, just as Edison did with
his DC infrastructure.
The result is talk of war over
narrative.
Who controls the narrative, you
know, with each generation
attempting to shape public
opinion in its favor.
So, technology as a symbol of
future identity.
You know, for Tesla, ac
alternating current was more
than technology.
It was a symbol of future
potential and human progress.
Similarly, younger generations
today see technology not just as
a tool but as part of an
identity.
They are shaping industries
around the technology's role in
personal freedom, community and
self-expression, often exploring
new digital landscape such as
the metavas-powered social
platforms.
In contrast, older generation
they view this as novelties or
even distractions, like
emphasizing instead of the
tangible physical infrastructure
and economy they have built and
maintained over decades.
This divide echoes Edison's
comment to the practicalities of
DC infrastructure, why Tesla
saw AC as a force that could
open doors to a new reality,
cultural legacy and the cycle of
rebellion.
So in the end, edison and
Tesla's, edison's and Tesla's
conflict.
What happened?
It wasn't just about those
technologies.
You know who would dominate,
but which worldview would shape
the future?
Which worldview?
So today's generational debate,
hold the same sticks.
You know decisions made by
millennials and you know Gen Z
will define society's trajectory
.
Why older generations thrive to
protect the world they built.
This cyclical clash of values,
dreams, tears you know I mean, I
beg your pardon, fears propels
society forward, sometimes
through painful transitions and
resistant pushback.
So, just as AC ultimately
prevailed yes, ac did, but DC
never disappeared.
Dc is still around so today's
generational divides are likely
to lead to hybrid solutions.
That's where we're going hybrid
solutions when the older,
proven methods blend with
transformative innovation,
transformative innovation.
In the process, these conflicts
carve out new societal norms
that decades from now will face
their own generational
challenges.
So you see, it's like a circle,
it's going round.
It's going round.
So, from the current to the
cold, let me put it this way,
where we're going now.
From the current to the cold,
let me put it this way.
Where we're going now.
From the current to the cold,
the cold C-O-D-E.
A new war of ideas, you know.
So when you re, just let us look
at reimagining today's
generational divide as a new war
of currents, we gain insight
into the persistence of such
conflicts and their importance
in shaping technological and
cultural evolution.
As with edison and tesla, each
side offers unique perspectives
and potential, one grounded in
proven stability, the other in
visionary possibility.
So, the question now, the
question now, you know.
Let us look at the question.
Was it?
You know, the question now, as
it was in the 19th century is
which idea will light the way
forward and who will ultimately
define the future.
So that's the question we're
asking today.
So there's a war going on and
this war will continue to go on
as long as humans exist on
planet Earth.
But again, the courage to accept
change speaks volume of one
generation's wisdom passing it
to the other generation.
I remember, uh, I did a song
recently, uh, if you, if you've
seen it and a couple of you have
seen it john B Goode, and when
we're talking about generational
conflict and all of that.
So it is what it is.
Today, the millennials look
like they look at the baby
boomers you know, we call them
old school 20 years from now,
the millennials.
And the Gen Zs and the Gen
Alphas.
Like my daughter told me the
other day, daddy, I'm a Gen
Alpha, oh really.
So one day, gen Alpha may come
and have Gen Pi.
You know Pi, that symbol in
math we may come up with,
because we have Z, we have X, we
have Alpha, we may even have
Beta, gen Beta, and after Beta,
we may even have Gen Gamma.
So what are we saying here?
The ideas would always come,
but your ability to embrace it
in a positive light shapes the
society.
I understand some of these
ideas can be dangerous, yeah, if
not curtailed and controlled.
I'm not talking about woke
culture now.
I'm not talking about cancel
culture, but I'm talking.
Talking about woke culture now.
I'm not talking about cancel
culture, but I'm talking about
progressive, because we were
created after his image, his
likeness and form.
Science tells us that the
universe is still expanding.
There are more galaxies.
We are in the Milky Way, but
there are more galaxies out
there.
God is still creating.
So imagine that that is who we
are.
We are always in a constant
flux of change.
So there's this battle, but if
both generations would
understand themselves which I
think we should, you get me,
we'll move.
Guys, this is what we came to
do on the show today.
How do we approach it?
How do we embrace it?
How do we take it?
Well, I think we should take it
from that perspective, what we
just shared.
Now, that perspective Change.
Change is inevitable.
Change will always look at us
in the face, but you know what
we were created for change.
We were created to manage
change.
We were created to deal with
change in such a way that we
will come out strong, better,
bigger and brighter.
Before I go, I want to leave you
with a thought.
Excuse me.
Excuse me, I wrote something
down on my way to the studio and
I felt I should share it with
you.
It had to do with our response
to change and how we should, as
a people, manage change.
Excuse me, I wrote it down on
my phone, so I'm trying to
search for it.
See technology.
Sometimes I look at myself and
I say Am I really, am I not
falling under the age of the
group of old school?
I don't know.
Honestly, I do.
I ask myself that question.
Okay, I found it, so I'm going
to read it out for you.
Something I wrote down before
coming into the space.
So I think we'll be doing this
on the show more often.
An opening thought with a
closing thought.
What do you think Good?
When fear arises, it's often
the call, not for strength of
our own or the wisdom we hold,
but a whisper, soft yet bold, to
step aside, to yield, to let
his light unfold.
It's not in our hands, nor in
our might, but in surrender,
that we glimpse his sight, for
with him, no bounds remain,
remain no walls restrain his
possibilities, dissolve every
earthly chain, and so we trust
as faith renews in each
impossible, he proves true
within.
So with him, our path is drawn,
unmeasured, vast a journey in
trust, his presence cast.
So I think that's the best way
to approach this war.
So, guys, this is me appealing
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