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Speaker 1: Hello there, welcome
to the World Cafe podcast.
This podcast has been designed
with created content that
centers on the power of words.
Can we really do anything
without speaking?
Can we really do anything
without the agency of words?
Yes, that is what this podcast
is all about, and I am your host
, amakri Isuboye, your
neighborhood word trader.
I believe in the power of words
, for it is the unit of creation
.
I trade in words to profit my
world, and we are back.
Did we ever leave?
Good morning, good afternoon,
good evening, good everything.
How are you all doing?
Beautiful?
You know, each time I say that
word, did we ever leave?
You know like, did we ever
leave?
Did we ever leave?
No, no, no, we are always here.
Welcome to the Word Cafe Live
show.
How are you?
What is it like at your end?
What's it like, you know, back
in Nigeria, where I am currently
at the city, should I say the
federal capital territory it's
been calm, you know, not so much
rain like it was a month ago,
but pretty calm.
You have a cool weather, dolls,
you know.
But around the country, like
from the coastal towns, it's
been raining, pretty, you know,
raining and all of that.
So what is it like at your end.
Tell me, yes, just imagine I'm
right by you, listening to you
telling me.
Telling me, oh, it's this, oh
it's that, oh it's this, oh it's
that.
But all of it, we are alive, we
have the my safe space.
Yes, I do, all righty, what are
we going to be doing today?
Well, lately I've been having
this thought heavy on my heart.
I call today's topic or
discourse what I'll be talking
about, or what we are going to
be talking about, because you're
listening, you know it's, uh,
the burden of leadership.
The burden of leadership.
Leadership is one subject that
you cannot get enough of.
Yes, you can't.
It's impossible, really
impossible.
Every every, every day, we we
need it.
We need leadership in one way,
in one form or the other, be it
in our personal lives, our homes
, the country, talking about
where you live as a nation,
talking about your business, the
company you work for or work
with, as the case may be.
We need leadership.
It's one subject that you
cannot exhaust talking about,
because every day, we need to be
led.
And the way I see it personally,
honestly, the way I see it,
people love to be led.
They want to be led.
They don't want to be managed,
yes, they don't want to be, they
want to be led.
They want to be led.
They don't want to be managed.
Yes, they don't want to be,
they want to be led.
But now, who is going to lead?
Who is going to lead?
I call it definition of
statement made by two marvelous
individuals who are working the
earth.
You know, one of them is John
Maxwell.
We know him when it comes to
leadership and all of that.
He said leadership, everything
rises and falls on leadership.
Everything rises and falls on
leadership.
Jumoke Odunowo, you know the
legendary architect, you know
she puts it this way.
She says leadership is the
thread that runs through
everything.
Leadership is the thread that
runs through everything.
We'll put it that way
Everything rises and falls.
So if you see the falling of
things, it's because of bad
leadership.
If you see the rising of things
, it's because of good
leadership.
And leadership is the thread
that runs through everything, be
it good or bad.
If it's a bad situation, check
the domino effect the leader did
something wrong and boom, boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom.
It went round and it's a good
thing.
Also, you look at the leader,
what he has done, but when you
look at all of this, one thing
under underscores all of this
sacrifice, huge sacrifice, john
Maxwell will call it the
influence.
Leadership is all about
influence.
So how do you grow this
influence?
How do you handle about
influence?
So how do you grow this
influence?
How do you handle, you know,
this influence, how do you?
The truth is, whether you want
to like it or not, believe it or
not, the minute you start
leading your personal life,
breaking certain you know, quote
, unquote, limitation and
barriers to certain conceived or
perceived concepts, ideas, and
you become like a trailblazer.
All of a sudden, everybody
comes under you, you know, be it
in business, entertainment,
sports, just name it.
So you carry that burden.
How do I?
So you carry that burden?
How do I?
Recently, very recently in my
life, I came in contact with an
amazing individual, sa Feladuro
Toi.
You know, he's known for that
mission, building and leadership
, and sitting under him, I hear
a lot, I hear a lot about
leadership.
I hear a lot about leaders, you
know, and it's like the whole
earth, the whole world, the
burden of the world lies on the
shoulders of leaders.
People are looking for answers,
people are looking for stops
and all of that.
All right, I'm, I'm going to
bring in the scripture.
Yes, that's where I get a lot
of my ideas and juices, as you
may want to call it, in doing
what I do.
Somewhere in Matthew's gospel 20
, 21, somebody walked up to
Jesus, a mother, and Jesus asked
her what do you want, what do
you want?
And Jesus asked her what do you
want, what do you want?
And Jesus said to her, he
looked at her straight in the
eyes, knowing that she wanted to
ask for something.
That is like what do you want?
And she said grant that one of
these, that's her children who
were working with Jesus, two
sons of mine, yes, may sit at
your right and the other at your
left A place of honor, more or
less you know.
And Jesus smiled and looked at
her and said you don't know what
you're asking for.
Do you know what you're asking
for?
Can you drink the cup I am
going to drink?
The hand said we can.
Okay, you can, all right.
But Jesus said to them you will
indeed drink from my cup, but
to sit at my right hand or left,
it's not for me to grant, it is
not for me to give.
These places belong to those for
whom they have been prepared by
my father.
You know so the concept of
leadership from what I see here,
it's a thing of honor.
Yes, you, he said it's an
honorable one.
Leadership, a leadership role,
is an honorable one, but it is
not what you take upon yourself.
It's like jesus saying to them
it is born out of purpose.
Purpose, yes, you want to sit
here, you want to sit there.
It's not my place to decide
that, but my Father has reserved
it more or less like it's a.
These are positions, these are
seats.
What I say, preserved
exclusively, not necessarily
exclusive, but it's a purpose
thing.
Is it your purpose?
Because when you discover your
purpose, then you come to see
what it means to dispense from
that purpose and you come to
discover that influence you're
building and automatically, just
like John Maxwell put it,
everything rises and falls on
leadership.
And so you're dispensing of
your, from your purpose, more or
less like serving, taking from
it, like you take a cup scoop
from your purpose, and you're
serving the continuity, the
constants of doing that every
day, from your purpose and your
servant.
The continuity, the constants
of doing that Every day, creates
this influence and people flock
to you or they come to you and
they want to like, be, or rather
get inspired by you.
You know, over time this builds
this burden on you.
It becomes like there's an
expectation.
We expect so much from leaders
yes, we expect so much from
leaders and so many of us who
occupy a leadership position
come to give off a wrong vibes.
I saw a write-up recently, two
write-ups, which caught my
attention and I'm going to share
.
From that, you know, to help
you listening to me and even
myself, there's one core factor
in leadership that the minute it
is lacking, as in the minute
it's not there, the minute that
factor is not there, what
happens is you lose credibility
completely, and that is called
sincerity.
The word sincerity, you know,
is coined from a Latin word
sincera, that's S-I-N-E-C-E-R-A
chair, more or less like the
Italians would call it.
You know, sign chair.
That is, leadership without
sincerity is not leadership.
Leadership without sincerity is
not leadership.
And this comes from, you know,
the Roman times when sculptures
were everywhere.
It was a thing of joy and pride
to have your image, as in your
bust or something you know.
Make some your image, put it
somewhere.
So they were so much in need,
highly priced, you know, they
were so much in need, so you had
for your work to be expensive.
It means you have to be
original, you know you have to
be original.
Sure, you know you have to be
original and your originality
stems from you're not adding
anything to it, you know.
So that sign chair, it is like.
Let me read it out for you.
In Roman times, marble
sculptures were highly priced,
you know, statue objects.
Sure, they were expensive, but
more than that, they were really
hard to make, yes, as in pretty
difficult.
So every strike of the chisel
had to be perfect.
But sometimes even the best
sculptors, you know, would make
a mistake.
So what do they do now?
They sometimes chip away that
the wrong piece, leaving an ugly
thing.
Well, so what they now started
doing?
For some of them, they started
adding wax.
You know, like to make it up,
they add the wax.
So if you add wax to it, it
means.
This is what it means the word
sign chair.
A sign means without, chair,
means wax.
So it's a latin word.
Your work sign chair is without
wax, so english coined it from
that sincerity.
So, more or less, you are
sincere as a leader.
There's no additive to you,
there's no, there's no, there's
no.
What's the word to use?
Now?
You're not embellishing, you
are true, you are original, you
are sincere.
That's who, that's what you are
so, more or less.
You're not ardent, you're not
exaggerating you, you are, you
are, you are true, what we see,
the image you present, the, the,
the, the, the, the, the.
What I see, the vibe you give
is so original.
You will agree with me that is a
very, very challenging thing to
do, to stand to be there.
You know, just like the
sculptor, you are not chipping
away those things to fill it up
with wax, but you are delicately
chipping away what is not meant
to be there, bringing out what
is meant to be there.
You spend so many time I mean,
it's so time-consuming.
You are so precise, meticulous,
careful.
More or less you need the grace
of Jehovah, you need the grace
of God to do that thing you're
doing so that the best will come
out.
So when leadership, when
leadership you get me when you
are leading, sign chairily, that
is, you are leading without wax
the best comes out.
But when you lead with wax, that
leadership is tainted, it's not
original, it's not real, as in,
it's not true.
We can't relate with them.
You're more or less like a
fraud.
Mm-hmm, you know, leadership is
something that people look up
to you.
If not people, the elements
look up to you Because you have
grown this ability to maneuver
yes, in the right sense the
elements to serve that purpose,
not a selfish purpose.
Now you know, even if it's a
selfish purpose, yes, because
some people lead in a wrong way
Self-serving, they lead for
themselves, they are looking at
themselves.
So you know you are like a
fraud.
The truth is leadership that is
sincere, that is true, is
value-based, the right value.
Like my mentor would say, it
takes value to create value.
Yeah, it takes value to create
value.
Yeah, it takes value to create
value.
For you to be value-oriented,
you want to create value, it
means you have a value from
which you operate, from it could
be.
I don't tell lies, I don't
believe in telling lies, I don't
believe in exaggerating and
creating all of that.
I am true to this and you are
true to it.
Or see, these are my values.
I base everything I do, you
know, and the truth is, values
come from our mouth and this,
the minute, those values come
from our mouth, they define our
actions, which now becomes
virtue, as, in virtue, people
look at it like, wow, this
person, you know he or she, is
true to what they say.
If they cannot do it, they have
not said it.
Did you get that?
If they cannot do it, that's
because they have not said it,
that if they cannot do it,
that's because they have not
said it.
But the minute they say it,
because that's the value that
they bring forth, automatically
an action follows.
It becomes, you know, action
based Because I do because I
have spoken, I don't do because
I have not spoken.
More or less that is what it is
like.
So the world is in need of
leaders, true leaders.
Now, how do we get them?
How do we reach out?
How do we bring them?
How do we find them?
They are there.
They are there, just like you
know the Latin saying Veritas
lux onni Truth is the light of
the world.
Yes, leadership is what, should
I say, elevates our living to
the highest level, because
leaders give themselves to
highest form of living, do
things they're so disciplined at
.
It truly does.
I mean true leaders like you
see that person in in that
sporting activity.
You know he's doing exceptional
things with with, either in
basketball, on tennis, uh, the
speed race, or whatever.
Go and see what they do behind
the scenes.
Go and see how they lead their
lives.
They don't live their lives,
they lead their lives.
So go see how they lead their
lives.
You will be blown away.
And the truth is the minute you
also subject yourself to that
form of leading.
What you see is nothing short
of what they are doing.
All the, the, the expressions
you see.
So the world rises on the back
of good leadership and so it
falls on the back of wrong
leadership, and that is the
thread that goes through each
and every one.
You know each and everything we
do.
Leadership, it is influence,
yep, the burden of leadership.
How do we get there?
We will.
It is for us to embrace it From
the place of purpose.
You know your purpose and you
rise from there, you move from
there.
Amazing, isn't it?
Well, this is what I just said
to come around and share with
you.
It will not change.
This principle won't change.
It is the principle.
It's been there.
It will always be there For
those who are led by the Spirit
of God.
They are the sons of God, and
you know what sons do?
They display, they manifest,
they show forth, they bring
about the good things of life.
Yes, you know how we say it on
the show.
This is the space where we come
in to lean on one another's
experience and forge a positive
path.
It's so fun being here talking
to you.
Thank you so much.
Well, whatever you do, remember
, remember what you say is what
you do.
What you do may not necessarily
be what you are saying.
Till I come your way again.
Bye for now.
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you on the World Cafe Podcast
today.
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Bye for now.