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Speaker 1: Hello there, welcome
to the World Cafe podcast.
This podcast has been designed
with created content that
centers on the power of words.
Can we really do anything
without speaking?
Can we really do anything
without the agency of words?
Yes, that is what this podcast
is all about, and I am your host
, amakri Isuboye, your
neighborhood word trader.
I believe in the power of words
, for it is the unit of creation
.
I trade in words to profit my
world.
Amazing.
Good morning, good afternoon,
good evening, good everything.
How are you all doing?
Mmm?
Beautiful, good everything.
How are you all doing?
Beautiful?
Yes, we're back into that space
.
Always exciting.
You know when, whenever I come
in here, uh, it is.
Let me tell you how I feel.
I feel this surge of energy.
You know, and I always say it,
and I just say it it is my safe
space.
You know, it is my safe space
and each time I come in, I just
feel like, oh boy, somebody's
there now listening.
I just feel like, oh boy,
somebody is there now listening.
You know he is listening, he or
she is listening and will
receive a word or an inspiration
and boom, to go there and do
that thing, yes, that thing he
or she was created for.
It is our safe space.
I call it.
This is the safe space where I
come in, yep, and boom, yes,
where we come in to lean on one
another's experience, to forge a
positive path.
Amazing being there, being here
, rather Okay, how have you been
?
I've been amazing myself.
I know, yep, a lot has been
happening globally and, uh,
questions being asked and all of
that.
But you know, you know who's
got us.
He's got us, god has got us and
by his special grace, we are
going to not survive.
We will leave our tribe.
We will, you know, thrive in,
uh, this, uh.
We will find that as, should I
say, a platform to exhibit the
reason why we are here.
I will tell you why I use those
words, because it is going to
form the basis of our discussion
today.
I want to talk about
organizations as platforms.
Yes, organizations as platforms
.
My professional life started
within the space of HR and a
good number of you who you've
encountered me one way or the
other, yep, you would know
that's my field.
I love HR, and some people say
why do you love HR?
I look at HR, human resources,
as we call it beyond, yep, the
HR.
You see the spirit that drives
every should I say organization.
Every gathering and being in
that space has revealed a lot to
me as a person.
And the truth is, when you come
to understand the principles,
the core principles of human
resource management, you can
practically get people to move
the world as a move, it
literally moved the world.
Yes, when you come to
understand those concepts.
So I'm going to begin this this
way, yes, introducing the topic
for discussion practically
organizations as platforms.
I am not going to go about it
like the textbook way that I'm
going to go about it the way we
do it on the show, and that is
our observations, what we have
encountered and, by so doing,
formulating or coming to
appreciate the concepts we see
all around us, and we'll see how
we'll drive it that way.
Okay, right.
So organizations as platforms.
If you look at the way the world
is designed by the creator, the
world operates in platforms.
Yes, platforms, literally
platforms.
When you try to define
platforms, you could see it as a
structure, you know, a
structure that provides basis,
authority for people to like
stand on and express themselves.
Let out that, should I say
energy that has been bottled up
in them.
Yes, like I can't.
They said something that is so.
Yes, you know, kim, it is the,
the, the scientist that he did a
lot around flotation and all of
that.
He said give me a falter on
which to plant my lever and I
will move the world.
A falter, give me a platform on
which to plant my lever, as in
that thing L-E-V-E-R, that thing
, my energy, who I am, and I
will move the world.
And literally it's like give me
that platform.
Give me that platform, yes,
give me that platform on which
for me to stand and let out my
talent.
Now, if you look at it,
everybody, or most people who
have visions, visions of saying
I want to sell this, I want to
provide this service, I want to
do this, I want to do that.
Now, the way they go about it,
unconsciously to them, honestly,
that's how it starts Maybe from
a one-man business that grows
into a multi-million dollar and
all of that, you come to see
that they go about it first of
all.
They may not know it, but
intuitively it is written within
us.
They go about it by creating
first of all, yes, a structure.
They put a structure around
their thoughts, they put a
structure around their vision,
they put a structure around that
thing they want to do and that
structure they have created
practically, you know, provides
the opportunity for them to
begin to express.
But you know what, when they
begin to express themselves on
this platform, the platform
becomes successful in the bead,
or rather in that mode of being
successful.
It creates an attraction that
other people who now are seeking
, should I say, a platform on
which to express themselves,
come to show.
You know, interest, and now you
look at corporations and
somebody will tell you I'm
looking for a job or I'm looking
, I want to build a career in
XYZ and I see that opportunity
in this organization.
And off they go and they go to
like, show interest and all of
that to stand on that platform.
So, practically, if you look at
what organizations are, they
are designed, architectural
designs that provides the
platform for individuals to
express themselves.
Yes, more or less like
self-actualization.
You want to self-actualize, you
want to be known for this, you
want to be known for that, you
want to be known for that.
So what happens?
You seek an organization, you
seek that body, you seek that
place on which you can step on
and like, self-actualize.
So, practically, what
organizations are?
No matter what you're into,
maybe a large corporation that
are into providing services,
maybe the internet service, oil
and gas, the energy, food
industry, music, space, name it.
These organizations are.
They are platforms for
self-actualization and you see
people you know wanting to like
find themselves in such spaces
like let's paint a picture
you're an engineer, you want to
be part of this great
engineering firm like nasa,
because of the reputation they
have over the years they have
built and all of that.
So you hop on the nasa platform
and to like, showcase your,
your talent, just like the
leather, and you want to push
the world, you know, from your
own uh, should I say standpoint.
You want to contribute.
So you become part of that
great story within NASA.
And now you begin to
self-actualize.
Now you realize that a good
number of us, when we get
involved with an organization,
we spend 5, 6, 10, 15 years.
You can see certain people even
spend as much as I beg your
pardon 30 plus years with an
organization.
So I begin to, like, you know,
imagine the change, or changes
that this individual has
undergone and how those changes
has affected both the individual
and the organization.
Come to think of it.
This individual has a vision,
because every organization you
know functions on that vision,
mission, are structured.
You have a vision, you know
your mission and what have you?
Then you have set up targets,
objectives, and sometimes on
quarterly sorry, uh, on
four-year plan basis, you come
up with that.
Okay, this is what we look
forward to as an organization to
become in the next four years.
We want to do this, we want to
do this, we want to do this.
So now imagine that is the
organization.
We always think of an
organization, like you hear this
word, think of an organization.
Like you hear this word, people
always use it.
If you listen carefully, the
company, the management.
So we tend to create this
entity that is called the
organization.
Practically, the organization
is alive.
You know the management said so
, who is the management?
You come to think of it?
They are not people, just, I
mean, the management is not just
the thin air, you know and all
that.
There are people who formed us,
but they are more or less like
I would say, they play a dual
role.
You know management, at the
same time, individuals, because
they, too, want to leave.
So this platform has been
created and all of a sudden, you
have this, what I call it rules
that guide how the processes
will be done and, if you look at
that, the individuals, people
who become part of these
organizations.
They live their lives, they are
actualized.
So the success is the record as
individuals.
To a large degree is not
unconnected with the success of
the organization's record,
because you, you all, you hear
things.
People say things like I walk to
earn a living.
You know, I ask myself earn a
living, you're already alive.
How are you earning a living?
Is that a poetic statement or
is it?
Uh, what do you call it?
Now?
What's what?
Uh, what's that?
I want to earn a living.
Is it figuratively speaking or
literally speaking?
But if you look at that, because
we expend energy, our lives, we
expect a return in terms of
revenue, in terms of reward,
because a worker is worthy of
his wages.
So we can equate our lives, yes
, our work on earth, we can
equate it.
You equated somehow on wages.
Yes, wages, the things you do,
they bring a reward.
So that's why you go to that
organization.
You want to earn or you want to
make a living.
So, literally, you are putting
yourself, you're leveraging.
That's the right word, just
like Akemi said.
He said give me a fulcrum, give
me a fulcrum, and you know that
on which to plant my lever.
I want to leverage and if I
find that fulcrum.
I'm going to move the world.
So that is what we see and that
is what organizations are.
Organizations are fulcrum on
which we leverage.
We put that and we become, we
leave.
So listen to yourself again and
again.
This is one mistake.
A good number of organizations
out there you know they make.
In my opinion, we always look at
the profitability, like the
organization is here to make
profit, good, but ask yourself
what sort of profit the world
functions through the channels
or platforms of organizations.
Check it, google it, search it,
research.
Every impact we see on the
earth taken by an individual,
there's always an organization
around that individual.
Yep, do you want to go out and
start calling them large
corporations?
So the organizations are formed
within the ethical principles
to see how we humans will ride
and express that which is within
us.
You can go around, just go
around and look.
Everybody functions within the
framework of organization.
Yes, even the family, mommy,
daddy, the children, the
children want to like have daddy
or mommy notice what they are
doing, just like in
organizations.
Mommy, I can do this, daddy, I
can do this, so just give me an
opportunity, let me stand.
So opportunity, I mean, I beg
your pardon.
Organizations are
architecturally designed for
self-actualization.
Yes, organizations,
architecturally speaking, if you
look at it indently, they are
designed for self-actualization.
So, those of us who want to
work with that organization, it
is because we want to
self-actualize.
Then the organization that has
been established, that want to
be globally known, is the same
thing.
The organization, yes, wants to
self-actualize, wants to be
known, known for.
We are known for this, we are
known for that, we are known for
X, we are known for that, we
are known for X, we are known
for Y.
So practically it is all about
self-actualization.
And when you are
self-actualized, let me tell you
what happens.
The world, the globe, the earth
, enjoys that energy that comes
from you.
It's like something new, it's
like something beautiful,
something novel just went
through the earth and the earth
became a better place because of
you.
So now think of it.
Why do you want to do that
thing you want to do, why do you
want to work in that
organization?
It's self-actualization,
because the organization, in
trying to become the best our
own way, gives you the
opportunity to also
self-actualize.
There are things like trainings
, you know.
There are things like what you
call just name it opportunities,
you know.
You know there are things like
what you call just name it
opportunities.
You know, you traveled to that
country.
You traveled to that place, the
dream you've been having.
All this while, because of that
organization yes, look at that
You've been longing to go to
Paris.
You've been longing to go to
the US, california, you know all
the major states and what have
you and the organization just
provided that platform for you
to self-actualize.
So you got to those places as a
result of the organization.
The fall crew provided for you
and now you have leveraged it
and a lot of us are known
because of our organizations.
Yes, a number of us Call any
name.
If you call, okay, let's do it.
Call a name.
If you call a name like, let's
say, elon Musk, what would you
say?
Tesla?
Or noun X for my Twitter, okay,
mark Zuckerberg, what do you
say?
Facebook, now Meta?
Okay, bring home Nigeria to
this space.
If I call a name like Elumelu,
what comes to your mind?
Oh, uba as Holden.
Okay, go ahead.
What other name do you want to
call?
So every individual, to a large
degree, is known by the
organization.
Just like we say let me see the
people you work with, I will
tell who you are.
So the company you keep speaks
of who you are.
The company you keep, you know,
help you to self-actualize,
good or bad.
And you know, evil
communication corrupts good
manners.
So that is why nobody wants to
be associated with any
organization that is known for
something bad.
We want to be associated with
organizations that have good as
a name.
They are credible, they are
known out there for what they do
, not just for the services they
provide, but for the ethical
principles they walk by and for
that which they have done for
years.
So you want to be part of it,
you want to be associated with
them.
Guys, that's what I came to do
on the show today.
Yes, so that thing you are
working on thing, I mean the,
the, the, that talent you think
you have there, you, you want it
to be expressed, you want it to
be known.
You want, you want to be known,
you want to be seen.
The truth is, you are looking
for a platform, you're looking
for an organization, and when
you find that platform, you want
to prove yourself, you want to
show you know, whoever is in
charge, whoever is responsible,
like I, can be part of this
platform.
This is what I have to offer.
And the individual, just like
you know, uh, we, we, we look at
it in terms of recruitment and
all that, and they begin to,
like you know, search and they
say, oh yes, we have this
individual.
Beyond the skills, he has the
character, so he can be part of
this platform, he can be part of
this organization to further
drive the message of the
organization.
You know, farther and farther
and farther and farther.
They've been there forever
because they've come to know
what they stand for.
They have come to, should I say
, understand and realize that we
are a platform for
self-actualization.
So if you don't know that, if
you didn't know that before now,
you should.
That's what organizations are
all about.
That's why you yearn, you want
to be part of that platform, you
want to be part of that
organization to self-actualize.
Thank you, thank you, and you
know how we do it on the show.
I told you I always get excited
when I come in.
This is the space where we come
in to lean on one another's
experience to forge a positive
path.
Thank you for being there,
thank you for listening, thank
you for, you know, sticking all
of us in.
Thank you Till I come your way
again.
Bye for now.
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