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SPEAKER_02: Okay, good morning.
Good afternoon.
Good evening.
Good everything.
Wherever you are listening to me
within the earth.
Somebody said once, why do you
always greet that way?
I said, well, you never can
tell.
Because some people might be
sleeping as we're speaking.
So when they wake up, some
people might be awake.
Some people might be, you know,
in between.
And so I have to greet.
Yeah, I have to.
How are you?
How are you doing?
I'm good.
I'm fine, myself.
Always fun, you know, walking
into this space.
Welcome to the World Cafe Live
Show.
This is the space where we come
in to lean on one another's
experience and forge a positive
path.
It's been an amazing season.
Where I am is, it has started
raining.
It will form part of what we're
going to talk about today.
You know, it's summer, as it
were.
The season summer, but it's
raining where I am.
And it's like, okay, how do I
how do you marry that?
SPEAKER_01: You know, time can
be a very sensitive issue.
So what are we going to be doing
today?
SPEAKER_02: The timekeepers.
Yes.
That's what we'll be talking
about.
The timekeepers.
I was reading a report about
Russia.
Russia has more than three or
four or five time zones in the
same continent or the same
country.
Like the United States also.
You have the standard Eastern
time, standard central time, and
all whatnot.
But time is such a beautiful
thing.
Time is a reference.
Nothing happens on the earth
without time.
Nothing escapes time.
So to say, time is a definer, is
a decider.
And each time you look at the
concept of time, you can never
get enough of it.
So, like in Africa, for example,
we we do have time zones anyway.
Like if you come to West Africa,
Ghana, Nigeria, surprisingly,
we're neighbors, but we have
time differences.
I think it's an hour or two.
Then if you're talking about
Europe, where you have daylight
savings and all that, when from
Nigeria to Europe is
approximately more or less six
hours, then there comes a time
when a place like London, that's
England, Italy, one hour ahead,
you know, all of that, all of
those differences.
And it goes a long way in
deciding so many things.
I'm going to start with this.
It's a thought.
The scripture, a lot more times
in my space, when we talk about
time, this pops up.
And I took my time to look at
it.
It says that's 1 Chronicles 12,
32.
It says from Issach a man who
understood the times and knew
what Israel should do.
Two hundred chiefs with all
their relatives under their
command.
SPEAKER_01: You know, vaguely
when you look at this scripture,
they understood the times.
Okay, of what importance is
that?
SPEAKER_02: How does it affect?
How does it bring about economic
policies, political policies,
spiritual implications, physical
changes here and there?
How they understood the times.
This scripture, or this happened
when Israel or David, King
David, was ascending the throne
to become king, and the whole of
Israel were coming to him.
You know, the twelve tribes,
they were coming to him.
The sons of Isakar, they came to
him.
200 of them.
But this is a unique thing about
them.
They understood the times.
So I was like, okay, why was
that reference?
They understood the times.
Okay, let us look at it from
this lens.
David was anointed king, even
when Saul was still around.
So David's time was not yet.
As in, it wasn't time for David
to ascend the stool or the
throne, then Saul's time was
still, as in the sun had not set
on his time, so he was still
there.
So these 200 chiefs did not come
out.
They didn't come to support him.
But when they knew it was time,
they came to support David.
Scripture says they understood
the times, and their brethren
were at their command.
Now I took my time to look at
that very well, again and again.
And this was the only thing I
could do to go back and look at
the source of time.
Yes.
Time is a value.
Time is not just abstract.
Time is dependent on certain,
would I say, activities?
Physical, spiritual,
cosmological.
Yep, when you look at it.
So let us look at it from this
perspective now.
Follow my thought.
You know, when God created
creation in the beginning, it
says He created the
constellations, the stars to
govern the sun was to govern the
day, the moon to govern the
night.
And the way the scripture ends
it, that at the first, that was
the first day.
So time started counting, or
time started being relevant and
counted when God gave that
command.
The sun will rule the day, the
moon will rule the night.
These two rulings bring about a
cycle or a cycle, I beg your
pardon, a cycle which we come to
understand as day and month.
Now, when you look at how this
operates, so follow my thought
again, it means when the sun
comes up and when the moon comes
out, there are certain
activities on the earth that
takes place.
Like what you will ask.
So it means when the sun comes
out, photosynthesis.
You know what photosynthesis is
in bio your simple biology, the
process by which plants
manufacture, green plants now
manufacture their food in the
presence of what?
Oxygen and chlorophyll.
Uh-huh.
Carbohydrate is born.
Now come to think of it, what
happens to the animals?
There's a lot of greens for them
to eat.
And you know the animals give
off carbon dioxide, CO2, like
human beings.
So respiration is the opposite
of photosynthesis, and
photosynthesis is the opposite
of respiration.
You could say they are mural
images, so to say.
So one talks about taking away
while the other talks about
giving.
But all of these are functions
of time.
Now, an individual who comes to
understand these processes, the
cycling, the movement would
ultimately come to appreciate
and hold on to the processes on
planet Earth.
And I think that's where that
scripture is hinged on.
They understood the times.
In other words, the cycling of
the earth, the sun, the moon,
the stars.
For your information, when you
look at our cosmology, how the
earth, our earth, where we are
placed on the galaxy, the Milky
Way called, I mean, that galaxy
called the Milky Way, where you
have the nebulas and all that,
you come to see how the stars
are formed, the formation of the
stars, they go a long way in
influencing time.
Yes, how the earth functions.
So those who understand it,
those who appreciate it
definitely will come to do
things that their brethren will
be at their mercy or at their
command, I mean to say.
And that's the work of the
timekeeper.
The timekeeper understands the
circle of the earth and also
understands the cycle of the
earth.
The timekeeper, what you call
the watchers, they understand
the political systems, the
economic systems.
Have you ever wondered why
Pharaoh's dream had to do with
agriculture?
Have you ever wondered why
Joseph's dream had to do with
the cosmos?
Because his dream had to do with
moon, sun, stars bowing to him.
Have you ever wondered why?
If you go through the
scriptures, most of the visions
borders on these things I just
mentioned.
The stars, the clouds,
agriculture, animal husbandry.
Same thing happened to Jacob.
The dream he had was about
animal husbandry.
They all point to the watchers,
the timekeepers.
The same thing for Daniel.
Daniel's dream had to do with
what?
Time.
And that statement that says
this is the decree of the
watchers.
When you flip to Revelations,
the same thing, John the
Revelator, the island of Patmos,
what happened?
The revelation of Jesus that was
given to him of what was to
come, or what has happened, what
will happen, and what was
happening.
These are all inferences or
references to the timekeepers,
those who watch over time, those
who understand time.
Is he a big deal?
Yes, it is.
Very much.
Why is he a big deal?
I'll tell you a story.
Why I think is a big deal.
The story of the Magi, the wise
men who came to see Jesus.
Yes, they came and they gave him
three gifts gold, frank sense.
What did they say?
Who remembers it?
I remember it.
They said we saw his star.
Were they stargazers?
Were they studying the cosmos?
But this is one thing I know.
They were timekeepers.
And somehow, when they saw the
star, they knew it.
SPEAKER_01: Something big is
about to happen.
SPEAKER_02: I was listening to,
I saw this video of a Chinese
teacher, a preacher who was
talking about in the Chinese
mythology and the Chinese uh
they call it the dynasties, the
Hans Dynasty and all that, the
story of the star, the star of
Jesus.
He was amazed when he was
talking about it.
He said, the Chinese dynasty or
the Chinese history or the
Chinese story had it.
That they also saw it.
And they knew it, that some
mighty force, an individual, a
person was coming.
So again, somebody will say
you're being superstitious.
No, I'm not being superstitious.
I'm only telling you the power
of timekeeping.
Now I'm not talking about you
looking at your wristwatch.
SPEAKER_01: That's not what I'm
talking about.
I'm talking about seasons,
moments.
There's time for everything.
SPEAKER_02: There's every,
there's time for everything and
time for every activity under
the sun.
So those who understand it, they
will wield the power.
That's why, if you look at it,
even in our human experience as
you know, human beings, uh, you
look at political cycles on the
earth, you know, across the
nations and geopolitan, I mean
time zones, you see a four-year
tenure, a five-year tenure, a
six-year tenure.
So it's not, in other words,
these tenures are subject or
tied to the rise and setting of
the sun.
So you begin to see key players,
decision makers, begin to study
the time.
Because these time movements
influences every activity on the
earth.
And those who understand it can
manipulate it to their own
advantage.
No wonder David said in one of
the Psalms, the sun shall not
smite thee by day, neither the
moon by night.
There are people who can
weaponize time and turn it
against to fight other people.
Said the sun shall not smite
thee.
You know, wait a how will the
sun smite thee by day, nor the
moon by night.
How will the this is like saying
these things that were made for
our own good are now turning to
fight us?
How they have been manipulated.
So I'm going to read some
thoughts and bring my thoughts
to a close from the book of Job.
I saw this in the book of Job,
and I was like, okay, it speaks
so much to timekeeping.
You know, when what happened to
Job happened to him, a lot
happened in terms of revelations
and all of that about God.
If you look at Job chapter 9,
verse 9, and Job chapter 38, 31
to 32, they are mirror images.
Job 9, 9 says, He is the maker
of the bear and Orion, the
plaids and the chambers of the
South.
Come down.
I know I've talked about this on
the show before.
You know, the Orion, the bear,
the plaides, the chambers of the
South, these are constellations.
I talked about it once about the
seven sisters, a group of stars
that are perfectly together,
neatly packed, tightly packed.
So when you look at them with uh
binoculars or is it telescope, I
beg your pardon, when you view
them.
What you're wondering in the
time of Job, were there
telescopes?
Yes.
They were scientific minds then.
So the bear is like the star
forming the bear shape, you
know, the the bear, grizzly bear
or the polar bear, you know.
You see it when you look at it.
Orion, if you've listened to, if
you've watched um Captain
America, what was it now?
Marvel, the Marvel Universe, the
law of the Marvel Universe, you
you must have come across the
word Orion, the Orion Belt.
These are stars.
When uh what was his name now,
Thor, his axe was broken and he
needed to create a new one.
You remember that scene when he
traveled to, I think he traveled
to his hometown.
Let me, for purpose of
explanation, while what was the
bad guy's name again now?
You know the guy I'm talking
about, the bad guy in uh mother
universe.
You know, he he had destroyed so
many things.
He even destroyed the element,
the what do you call the machine
that could trap the sun, the
stars, for them to forge a new
axe?
So when he got there, the guy
that forges axe and all that
weapons told him, there's
nothing I can do.
He's broken.
He broke it.
The bad guy.
Why do I keep forgetting his
name?
Uh yeah, Stanos.
His name is Stanos.
Someone don't mind me.
So when uh Thor got there, you
know what happened?
And Thor tried opening the
device for them to harness the
power of the stars to bring in
this huge light that it could
forge a new ask the Orion belt.
Job 32, 38, 31, and 32, can you
bind the chains of the plates?
Can you loosen Orion's belt?
Did you hear that?
Can you bring forth the
constellation in their seasons
or lead out the bear with his
cubs?
Now, when you hear verse 9, Job
was talking about the
constellations, his pain, the
creation, and he talked about
the constellations.
And 38 was God now speaking back
to him, like asking him
questions.
Like, can you control them?
Can you control the Orion belt?
Can you control plates?
Like saying, Can you tell them
not to rise?
So if you hold them back, do you
know what is going to happen to
the earth?
Because their existence, being
where they are, in terms of
their proportion, brings about
the balance you see on earth.
But I, God, have the power to
change them, to change them.
So God has the power to change
times and seasons.
That was what he was telling
Job.
SPEAKER_01: You want me to go
on?
All right.
SPEAKER_02: All right, let me
just go with through it quickly.
Then we call it a day, so I can
allow you to go do all that
stuff.
You see the similarities.
If you look at the verse 9 and
In verse 38, you see the
similarities.
Plates, plates, Orion, Orion,
the bear, or Samajor.
You know, the bear with cups,
the same thing.
Chambers of the South, simply
put the constellations in their
seasons.
That's the meaning of the
chambers of the south.
So the imagery comes from the
ancient night sky, familiar to
Job and his contemplation.
So both emphasizes God's
dominion over creation.
God created them, God governs
them, God orders their movements
and seasons.
The heavens becomes a testimony
to divine wisdom and authority.
If you see that in Psalms,
Psalms 12, 19, verse 1, the
heavens declare the glory of
God.
Now, when you see all of this,
you come to see that
timekeeping, God is interested
in timekeeping.
SPEAKER_01: That's what I came
to do on the show today.
SPEAKER_02: You know.
So if you look at it now in Job
9, human observation versus
divine administration.
Job observes the stars from
earth.
In Job 38, God speaks as the one
who runs the universe.
God can see Orion.
God commands Orion.
God can identify the beer.
God leads the beer.
Job only admires the season.
God appoints the season.
Did you hear that?
There is a remarkable connection
between these two chapters.
In Job 9, Job acknowledges God's
greatness, but feels distant
from him.
How can a mothal be more
righteous before God?
I'm going to end with this a
word cafe reflection.
Job 9 is the language of a man
looking up to the stars.
Job 38 is the voice of the one
who hung them there.
In Job 9, Job sees the
constellation as evidence of
God's greatness.
In Job 38, God uses those same
constellations to reveal
something greater than mer,
merely that he made the heavens,
but that he sustains, directs,
and governs them moment by
moment.
The distance between the two
passages is the distance between
knowing about God and hearing
from God.
Job knew the stars, testified of
God's power.
God showed Job that every star
still answers to his command.
And if the stars have not
wandered from their appointed
parts, perhaps the story of Job
had not wandered from God's
purpose either.
So when you are within the
frame, the time frame of God,
you are within his purpose.
So guys, don't play with time.
This is what I kept you want to
show today.
Aha, you know it.
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Alright then, till I come your
way again, go be a timekeeper.
Put yourself, subject yourself
under his mighty hand and see
him move.
Alright then.
Till I come your way again.
My name is Amakri.
Amakri is a boy.
Bye for now.