Read the transcript
SPEAKER_01: Hello there.
Welcome to the World Cafe
Podcast.
This podcast has been designed
with created content that
centers on the power of words.
Can we really do anything
without speaking?
Can we really do anything
without the agency of words?
Yes, that is what this podcast
is all about.
And I am your host, a Macri
Iswe, your neighborhood word
trader.
I believe in the power of words,
for it is the unit of creation.
I trade in words to profit my
world in my space.
Yep, back into that space.
What space?
I'll tell you when I return.
Ah, okay.
Yes.
I will begin with that.
I know you are saying coffee
again.
Well, you can't get it wrong
with a good cup of coffee.
Yep.
Good morning.
Good afternoon.
Good evening.
Good everything.
Welcome to the World Cafe Aha
Live Show.
You know how we say it.
This is the space where we come
in to lean on one another's
experience to forge a positive
path.
It's a safe space.
And each time I come into it,
super excited, I must tell you.
Yep.
So what are we going to be doing
today?
Ah, I will begin with this.
I hope I don't bore you.
But in any case, if you're
bored, it will stare you on the
inside to do something.
My elder brother reached out to
me, I think, a month ago or so.
Yes, I have an elder brother for
the information.
Yeah.
And he was just sharing some
thoughts with me, and I laughed
because each line he was giving
out were things I had heard in a
movie or come across.
I'll share them with you.
History has never been kind to
any man who pleased God.
The function of man is to live
not to exist.
He who makes a beast of himself
loses the pain of being a man.
If you've watched the 007
series, Jim Bond, yes, uh, you
you must have heard all of this,
but that's not where I'm going.
Today I want to focus on what I
call the power of poetry.
Yes.
We're big on words here, the
word cafe, so we take our time
to look at certain things, and I
love observing.
And when I start observing, I
ask questions.
Speaking is a good thing because
we're speaking beings, as in
human beings, we're speaking
spirits.
But there's something about
poetry that commands the
attention of everybody.
Somehow, be it in English, if
you're in an English speaker, a
non-English speaker, your native
language, your dialect, when
things are said poetically, they
kind of hold you, you know, in
this frame, and you tend to
respond in a certain way.
And I kept asking myself why.
Why?
So I did a little uh digging
just to like understand why it
will amaze you what I came upon,
and that's what I want to share
with you.
First of all, what is poetry?
I said definitions and
limitations.
The minute you define a thing,
you have put kind of a
limitation to it, so from there
you begin to build, it's like
from known to unknown, you know,
mathematically speaking.
So I discover the word poetry
comes from the ancient Greek
word poesis, and what is the
meaning?
The act of creation, you see, or
making from also as an act of
creation, gotten from the verb
polio, poelio, which means I
create, even as you open
scriptures, the Bible, Genesis
chapter one, the way it flows,
very poetic.
It points to this factor, the
power of poetry, or what poetry
is all about, creation.
The minute anybody wants to
create something, he or she puts
down a thought poetically, like
your manifesto, and those words,
the way they flow, they may not
necessarily follow the grammar
frame, but somehow it elicits an
emotion to the hearer.
I'll give you an example of one.
For if you're an Italian
speaker, you know, if you hear
an Italian express love to her
beloved or his beloved, you hear
things like amore me.
Amore, my love me.
Now look, look, flip it, amore
mi, amor is love, me.
That's my love.
So it goes the other way around
if you look, if you try to
translate it in English and all
of that, but hearing it alone,
it evokes this thing in you
tiamo, amore mi, amo remi,
miyamo.
These are all expressions of
love, but poetic in its essence.
So when you look at it
carefully, you come to see that
there's something about poetry
that commands attention.
So, why did I bring this?
I'll tell you why I brought this
with a story of a man.
Every political idea stems from
a poetic verse.
Every poet, I mean, political
idea, economic idea stems from a
poetic verse.
One man proved it, and somehow
his poetic writings and
authorances took hold of the
world in such a way that he's
long gone, but his ideology is
still being propagated across
different timelines.
Karl Marx, the father of
communism.
So when you study, look at the
life of Karl Marx, he did not
begin his economic ideology and
political ideology on the
strength of male words, it came
from a poetic verse.
Yes, he started writing poetry,
his anger.
So, from what I gathered, Karl
Marx was a German Jew, if you
the Austria-Hungarian uh kingdom
and all of that, he said.
I don't want to bore you with
all the uh nitty-gritty details,
but that's where he came from,
you know.
And his father was a Christian,
a believer, but somehow Karl Max
went away from his father's uh
what I say belief system, and he
decided like to start his own.
Now the story has it that he
started believing in certain
things like chaos, and his main
influence was the German
folklore, you know, the German
folklore.
There's this folklore in
Germany.
If you if you read about it very
well, you come to see that uh
they believe in it so much.
A personality called
Mephistophelis.
Mephistophelis is a demonic
entity, so he started listening
to so such folklores, and
Mephistolis has understood the
background has it that he is a
spirit of disorder, anti-order,
and if you look at the
background of communism, that's
where it came from.
So he started writing, first of
all, you know, he started
writing, write, and write and
poetic verses, and the early uh
the way the story has it, the
early experience of Karl Marx,
when you read his write-ups were
disorderly write-ups,
challenging the order, which
built gradually and snowballed
into an economic, would I say,
principle.
And there's one thing you have
to understand: every message
that does not carry a commercial
viability, supported by a
theological mindset, dies over
time.
But Karl Marx built on these
principles, a message that has a
commercial value, that is to
say, it can hold the economy,
then the belief system of the
people, theology, fusing all
together, that riding on the
platform of poetry, you write a
verse, and this poetic verses
can be turned into plagues, and
that's how we began, and
gradually the communal communism
ideology swept across Europe, it
was deadly because by the time
minds like uh Lernin, Stalin, uh
the Italian Mussolini, and the
rest of them jumped on this
ideology.
History has it, Hitler, even,
yeah, socialism and all the rest
of them.
Now, this is this is what I came
to share with us on the show
today, like the power of poetry,
the power of words, weaving it
in a poetic sense, like I just
explained earlier.
It's about creating, poetry
creates, like Shakespearean
theories, Shakespearean verses,
when you read them and listen to
them, it's like there is this
ideology that is being created,
and it takes you lands away, and
you your imagination travels the
way the words interplay of
words, you know, and all of a
sudden it is built up.
But you know what?
There was a counter to his
ideology, also, yeah, which was
also the poetic verse.
So when he was building all of
this and uh trying to get a
movement, which he did, like the
critical mass, which he did, and
people followed, and what have
you, they ran along with him and
all that.
Somewhere in the in the west of
the US, there was a counter to
it.
So earlier in my life growing
up, these words rang a bell.
In God we trust, you know, a lot
of us see it on yes, the
American is it their currency.
We really don't know the origin,
poetic origin.
So before now, the Americans had
on their on their dollar bill it
was not in God we trust.
Yeah, in God we trust, it wasn't
it, but they had to come up with
this because the ideology
propagated by Karl Marx using
the power of poetry was
anti-God, it was Mephistophilus
influenced.
So the Americans who came, who
were America legs, the story of
America largely when you look at
it was built by the Puritans.
Let's not go into the other dark
side, that these are Christians,
and they were like, No, we need
to fight back, and how did they
fight back to propagate a poet,
a poetic verse, which is in God
we trust, and that was the what
I say, birthing of capitalism.
So you see, communism is a
political, social, economic,
politically motivated ideology,
so is capitalism.
But when you look at the driving
force, the poetic force behind
these two, one is dark, or one
is of the dark, the other is of
the light.
So that's how Americans came
upon with that.
You know, in God with trust.
But I want to show you
something, I want to show you
something, something amazing,
something I would uh make you
like see in God with trust, you
know, is the official model of
the United States as well as the
motto of the you know, blah blah
blah, along with the nation of
blah blah blah.
It was adopted by the US
Congress in 1956, replacing so
they had something before
replacing this a pluribus unum.
Yeah, it sounds poetic, doesn't
it?
That's Latin.
So this is the meaning of that.
The American Congress or the
American Society had this before
a pluribus unum, it simply means
out of one or out of many one.
You get out of many one.
That used to be the motto of the
United States of America, you
know, which had been the de
facto motto since the initial
design of the great seal of the
United States, but to counter
the ideology of Leninism and all
of that, better by Karl Marx, as
in communism, I beg your pardon.
In God we trust, and the United
States of America, the Congress
passed it in 1956 and they
embraced it in God we trust.
That is a poetic verse, powerful
poetic verse.
So you come to see that most of
the things we do in our
communities, in our societies,
are as a result of the hook
poetry has over us.
Yeah, that's the truth.
Now, let us look at this
closely.
I'm going to go into our
nativity in your dialect.
Those of us who grew up in the
village or we grew up with
grandparents and all of that,
excuse me.
Now, I'm from Calabary in River
State, and I'm going to give you
some lines for those of you who
are from that part of the world.
You will understand what I mean
deep.
Now, I grew up hearing my
grandparents, my mom say things
like this.
When somebody is sick and they
want to respond in terms of
treatment and go get this, go
get that.
There's this particular word
they use when they want to point
you to go get a particular
ointment and all that.
They call it Obi Foomba.
I will translate.
So Obi means sickness.
Yeah.
Remember those lines your
grandparents used to use, and
you will laugh.
Like, why does grandma or
grandpa sound like this?
It stares you, Obi Fomba.
That is, go get me that oil mint
that kills sickness.
So can you kill sickness?
Poetically, you can.
So they are like given a persona
to that what I always say uh
ailment, and also given a higher
persona to what will cure it.
So they go ahead and go get me.
That's so poetic.
Now there's this other one she
uses that describes when you
want to do things quickly in a
hurry and get it done.
Offer, so will be so offering so
obisop.
Offer means heart.
You heard me say obi a while
ago, sickness.
So you want to do the things
quickly.
Like I wanted to go quickly, so
offering so obis so quickly.
Very poetic in its essence.
Now you come to see our
politicians when they come to
sweet talk us, they rise on the
strength of poetry, they play
with words, interchange, they
rasmatase and mesmerise.
That's the power of poetry.
The power of oration is
strengthened by poetry.
Because when you speak, you
create.
When you get into that poetic
element, what you're doing,
you're creating, you're creating
a future, you're creating an
atmosphere, you're creating a
destination, and in the minds of
the people, they are excited.
Like, wow, this guy can speak so
well.
Beyond the speaking, he's
creating an image for us to walk
into.
SPEAKER_00: But more often than
not, we come to realize most of
them were just lying to us.
SPEAKER_01: So, guys, when you
listen to anybody playing with
your intelligence with words,
this is the reason, or this is
one of the reasons, the power of
poetry, the power, you know.
I say it all the time.
I believe in the power of words.
Why?
Because it is the unit of
creation.
I trade in words to profit my
word.
So you see why?
I didn't know it from the very
beginning, but researching,
staying, building, I now know
why.
So in your local dialect, poetry
controls.
Like when you come to Nigeria,
when you listen to the people
from the Delta, which we we call
them Wari, the Wari people.
When you stay with the Wari
people, the way they speak, even
in the pidgin English, you just
laugh.
Poetry.
They play with words, the
metaphor they use, the synonyms,
the the antonym, just name it.
Parts of speech that they play
around with.
How they give non-living things
life, how they give animals
human forms, that's the power of
poetry.
So every society, egalitarian or
not, rides on poetry.
Even the arts, the artists,
those who paint poetry, they are
created.
That is the power.
That's what I came to do on the
show today.
So if you are a native speaker
of your language, you can tell,
you can relate all those poetic
verses that your grandfathers,
ancestors have used that stuck
with you growing up.
It became the basis of your
creativity, it became the basis
of your philosophy, it became
the basis of your economic
principles.
That's the power of poetry.
You know, you would say to
yourself, he has come again.
Well, I'm still on the way.
Thank you.
I I am excited each time I come
into this space to to share
moments like this with you.
It means a lot to me.
It does.
SPEAKER_00: Alright, guys.
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
Before I go, I'll tell you this.
I'll say this.
We are available.
Yep, our social media handles.
You have them.
We're on TikTok.
Where are we again?
Facebook.
Where are we again?
Instagram, where are we again?
LinkedIn.
Yes.
And we have a channel, a YouTube
channel where we put up amazing
content.
You've been following, I know.
So go ahead, subscribe, hit that
notification button, and wait
for amazing poetic verses to hit
you like a tornado.
Well, I gotta go now.
It is always exciting to come
into this space and share with
you.
You're waiting for me to say
that, right?
SPEAKER_00: Did I come your way
again?
SPEAKER_01: Bye for now.
Awesome time it has been with
you on the World Cafe Podcast
today.
Thank you for being there.
You can catch me up on my social
media handles: Twitter,
Facebook, LinkedIn, and
Instagram, all at Amakri
Easterwood.
Also, you can get copies of my
books at Cocktail of Words, The
Color of Words, by HRO Notebook,
and Hoker's Focus on God on
Amazon and Rovinheid Online
bookstores.
You can also subscribe to my
YouTube channel at the same
address at Amakri Easterway.
I'd love to hear from you and
how this podcast has impacted
you.
You can leave me a message at my
email address at MacriGaribaldi
at gmail.com.
That is A-M-A-C-H R E G A R O I
B A L D I.
Yeah.
Till I come your way again.
Bye for now.