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Speaker 1: Okay, we're back in
the habit.
Not a bad one this time.
Hello guys, yes, before we go
on, I need to say this Good
morning, good afternoon, good
evening, good everything.
How are you doing today?
I am not asking rhetorically, I
am asking because I care, we
care rhetorically, I am asking
because I care, we care.
The main, one of the main
reasons why we are here, is
because you're there listening
to us.
Yes, welcome to the world cafe
live show.
Yes, this is the space where we
come in to lean on one
another's experience, to forge a
positive path.
Amazing, yes, it's been a
solemn period.
Within this space, we're
celebrating at the same time,
sharing some vulnerable moments
with you Today.
I am excited, I am.
That's why I said we're back in
the habit.
Not a bad one, a good one now.
And I have this amazing I'm not
alone.
Yes, I'm not alone, not as if
I've ever been alone.
You know what I'm talking about
, but I have this amazing
personality on set with me today
.
Yes, how do I describe him?
Don't worry, when he comes on,
he will say one or two things
and a lot more about himself,
but he's a psalmist, he's a
singer, a songwriter and a lover
of God.
Yes, the first time I saw him
how do I describe it?
He has this.
What's the best word to use now
?
This beautiful cry in his
melody.
You know, when you listen to
him, you hear it.
It is so distinct.
You know who am I talking about
?
None other, but E Daniels.
Yes, e Daniels, you're welcome
to the show.
Hello everyone, thank you.
Thank you so much for having me
.
I must say, when I got across
to you and like, can you do this
with us?
And when you said yes, it meant
a lot, always a pleasure.
So how are you?
I'm good, good, good, I can see
that, so I'm going to start
with that name.
I know I asked that question
before we came on set.
Yeah, the E Daniels.
What does it stand for?
Speaker 2: So simply E for
Emmanuel.
Okay, it sounds to Emmanuel
Daniels.
Speaker 1: I'm one of the
Daniels you're one of the
Daniels amazing, ah, my
grandfather's name is also
Daniels for years, so I each
time I come across Daniels, they
excite me awesome, alright, so
let's get to meet you.
Who is E daniels um?
Speaker 2: okay, so e daniels
here, um again, emmanuel daniel,
um e daniels for short.
Yeah, I'm from niger state.
I am a singer, songwriter, um,
a multi-instrumentalist, also a
music producer and director, as
you want it.
Yes, I'm the fourth of five
children.
Yes, with parents, and then,
and yeah, what else?
I'm a child of God.
Speaker 1: I like that.
So where did it start?
Speaker 2: for you, the music
thing.
Where did it start from?
So music has been something I
had, I, I just grew into, um,
the musical space actually, um,
so I'm the fourth of, like I
said, I'm the fourth of five
children.
So I, I grew up and then I met
everybody in the house singing,
literally, yeah so, my older
siblings and my mom, and I think
the only people who don't
really do serious music thing at
home is my dad and I think the
second born, yeah, my elder
brother, the second, yes, but
trust me, they are also lovers
of music.
Yes, so, but the rest of us,
every other person I grew up
hearing singing all around, and
then from there, I, so I
attended.
So while growing up I observed
that there were a whole lot of.
My brother would get a whole
lot of CDs then, yeah, cds, oh,
before even cds, this um,
cassette, cassette, radio
cassettes, yes, different albums
.
I can't even remember some of
their names.
Some it's, in fact, for some of
the songs I started listening
to.
Then it's now when I hear them,
and then I can now place the
name and who who did the the
song Actually did the song.
And then I remember, oh, this
was what I used to listen to
then, yeah, so he gets all of
that and then, aside from him,
my mom also gets a whole lot of
them.
So I grew up listening to a
whole lot of music songs from
different artists, different
genre also, and then I proceeded
to my primary school, where I
first started my education and
then it was located in there's
this college of education, zuba.
Speaker 1: Zuba okay.
Speaker 2: Yes, that was where
my primary it was school for the
visually impaired.
It was in the school premises,
the college of education
premises.
They give us few blocks, they
were just used.
And then some of them in the F
premises, the college of
education premises.
They gave us a few blocks, they
were just used.
And then some of them in the
FCS came around and then they
would just pick us and would
attend.
They would take us to the
fellowship and then they now
started taking us to the choir.
For some of us who they felt
like, oh, these guys had like a
talent or so, yeah.
So they started taking us into
their music team gradually,
gradually, and that was how I
started growing and that was
actually how music started for
me.
Speaker 1: I can imagine Now,
whoever has seen E Daniels, one
thing strikes, and before we
came on I was like telling him
hope you don't mind my asking
that you know he has a challenge
, but he has not allowed that
challenge to stop him and I want
to ask, for the purpose of, uh,
my audience, to know what
happened to e daniels okay, so,
um, I, I am visually impaired,
yes, so basically challenged
with the sight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and well, a
whole lot of stories surrounding
what happened, what happened,
but I think I would like to just
give the medical side of
everything.
So it was discovered, I was
told, actually, I was told, it
was discovered after a few
months of my birth that I had
measles, which is actually
traceable to the cause of the
visual impairment.
I think it got to affect the
sight and as I was growing,
everything just kept getting bad
.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
So it's been like this for From
birth.
Speaker 2: From birth.
Speaker 1: Yes, Wow, so the
other day I saw you at the opera
room.
Yeah, it was it was so blissful
it was exciting when.
I saw Minister Dunstan inviting
you to do that.
Speaker 2: It's a very known
song song.
Speaker 1: But the way you did
it and he ended up saying we're
going to do that song together.
What was it like for you?
Speaker 2: Okay.
So here is the story.
I wake up that Sunday morning
and I'm just preparing for
service and there's just this
thing.
I am feeling this kind of an
opening in my heart, like
something is.
I don't know if you get to feel
like you're about to receive
something, but you don't know
from where exactly there's a
nudge somewhere.
Just there was just something
about that morning.
It felt different, it felt
fresh.
I was in my head, I was really
preparing for service because I
I was supposed to lead a session
in church that morning also.
So I was preparing for service
and I was just getting myself
ready and I just prayed.
I'm like God, I'm ready for
today.
I'm just a vessel.
Let's just do this yeah and then
I'm on my way to church
listening to the arrangement of
the session I'm going to take
and all of that.
And then I'm with my phone and
for like a minute or two I kept
my phone down.
And by the time I'm picking my
phone and for like a minute or
two, I kept my phone down.
By the time I'm picking my
phone back up, I see a missed
call from Minister Dunst and I'm
like is this a mistake?
or something so I just told my
brother.
I'm like, is this him?
we need to be sure and then we
chatted through and we actually
saw that he was the one and I'm
like okay, so I'm now
contemplating between do I
respond immediately or I should
wait till after service?
And I just got the to just
respond to him.
And then, um, I just sent him a
message man of god, good
morning, sorry.
I missed your call.
God bless you.
And I get the response back.
I like what's going on and then
he goes good morning, daniels.
Um, god bless you.
Are you in abuja?
And I said yes, and he said how
free are you this evening?
I said how free am I?
Speaker 1: I'm you this evening.
I said how free am.
Speaker 2: I, I'm free this
evening, beautiful.
And then he goes.
Please could you come be a
blessing to us at the upper room
this evening?
Ah, I just said, no problem, I
will be there, I'll be there.
So yeah, and that was how the
story happened and everything
you saw it was it was.
It's still an overwhelming
moment.
I'm still trying to get into, I
can imagine so for you?
Speaker 1: how, your process,
how do you go about it?
Your writing, your scripting,
your, you know, putting all that
together, how, how does it
happen for you?
Speaker 2: okay.
So how do we break this down
now?
Is it songs or generally?
Or songs?
Okay, yes, mostly the songs,
mostly the songs.
So I, I, I can, personally,
personally, this is a personal
thing, this is not.
I don't want to generalize.
Yeah, this is a personal thing.
So this is not.
I don't want to generalize,
this is a personal thing.
So this is how it happens for
me.
I think I can only place my
hand on or I can just try to
remember very few number of
songs that I have consciously
sat down to see.
I want to write.
Yes, if anytime I tell myself I
want to sit down to write a song
, it doesn't work for me.
It really doesn't for me.
So most of my songs, they just
come and everything comes like
that spontaneous.
Yes, wow, so um, basically that
is how it works for me, but
other times I I receive songs
through um I'm I'm actually also
inspired by um good music that
I listen to yes, um, stories of
people, situations and and just
everything around it.
It really happens like that, but
most of the times it's not
something I I can just be here
and something is just going on
in my head, my spirit, and I
just run into where I need to go
record and get the tone tone
down and all of that, and then
later I can come back and to
build on it, yes, build on it,
fleshing it out Amazing.
Speaker 1: So this particular
song, it's one that each time we
even in morning devotion or
home sale, we're having
fellowship and all of that, and
we sing it, it makes, it just
takes us there.
Your name is Yahweh, yahweh,
you know, I think the first time
I heard that song I was like
this person singing this song is
seeing Yahweh right in front of
him.
Come on, because it's just a
beautiful cry.
Let's talk about that song.
Speaker 2: So Yahweh was
actually better for me place of
worship, actually, yes.
So we used to stay in this
house where we had a separate
room where, um, we had it was
not like a studio, we just
turned it into a rehearsal space
.
So it was not.
It was nothing, too nothing, it
was just a room, not even
painted, not even yeah.
So we just had a few, a couple
of music, musical instruments
set up and then when we have
like any serious rehearsals,
myself and my team, we just go
in there and we just create what
we need to create there and
then just spend time
fellowshipping and just working
on our music together, and after
that there are times that it's
just me alone.
I just take our time, just go
there, sit in there and I'm just
this time around.
I'm not rehearsing, I'm not
working on something new, I'm
just fellowshipping Just me
either, my piano, my guitar, and
I'm just just having my me time
with him exactly.
And he was from that place that
, yeah, we came from.
So I was actually singing a
song, a popular song that is out
there, a very known song.
I can't even remember what the
song was, but it's a general
worship song and I was just
worshipping, worshipping and
worshipping, and suddenly I
started singing your name is
Yahweh, and then I just kept
singing, singing, singing, and
the same feeling I was getting
as, like the previous song I was
singing, that is everywhere.
It just felt like are you sure
this is not someone's song?
Are you sure?
Speaker 1: It's actually
someone's song.
It's Yahweh's song, and Yahweh
gave it to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you get my
point, I do.
So.
It felt like it's a song that
is already, but that was my
business as I.
Then I was focused on who I was
worshiping and who I was
actually spending time with, and
it was later it dawned on me.
I'm like this is a new song you
just received, bro.
And then I started singing it
with consciousness of oh, this
is actually a gift from God that
you've received and all of that
, and that was how Yahweh was
bettered, actually from a deep
place of intimacy and just
worship.
Speaker 1: Amazing.
I mean, if I hear you correctly
, spending time with God, you
know, brings this revelation on
earth and of those secrets?
Yes, and the minute they come
into this dimension, they bring
about this amazing change.
Speaker 2: That is obvious.
It will just feel like it's
been existing.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know that
song my daughter, my children.
Whenever we raise it, mostly my
daughter.
She takes it up again and on
and on.
The other day in church I work
with teens, teenagers, so I
raised it and it just went on
like an anthem.
Yes, you know, amazing, amazing
.
So what are we expecting, or
what should we expect, from you?
Speaker 2: I mean, so amazing
things coming up actually, yes,
I mean so.
I mean amazing things coming up
actually, um.
Yes, there is a single, that is
, that is, um, to be released
very soon, okay, next month,
precisely, all right, so look
out, look out, look out for that
.
Yes, um, it's a song that is
already out, actually so, but I,
I did like a remake of the song
and it's so beautiful I can't
wait to share, to share with you
already.
But, besides that, a whole lot
coming up, um, I had a live
recording last year, okay, and
we, god, gave us some very
beautiful songs.
One of them was one of the
songs we did um, um at um stage
yes, last year remember we're
talking about, we're meeting at
the event last year.
So, yeah, very beautiful song.
It will take you to that deep
place and connect you to your
maker instantly yeah so those
songs are powerful and we are
working.
We're working and we will start
releasing some of those songs
very, very soon.
So good, watch out, watch out,
watch out.
It was.
It was a powerful time we had
during the live recording and we
can't wait to share the moment
with you thank you, yes.
Speaker 1: So now for what you
do and who you are.
We have a lot of young people
you know in this generation who
are somewhat, would I say,
looking for that direction.
They are like what's my purpose
?
What am I doing here?
You have discovered your
purpose and you're living it
today.
Can you share with them, let
them in on what I call it your
secret, which might trigger
their secret?
Speaker 2: Okay.
So my secret is actually very,
very simple, okay.
So, first of all, I think one
of the things that helped me
first was to first discover that
there is something I have.
There's something I have.
So I think that is like your
first point of call to first
discover your abilities, what
you can do, your strengths, yes.
So once you are able to do that
, then from there you find every
possible means to make sure you
are building on those strengths
.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: So this is both
practically, emotionally,
mentally, and every other ways
you can be able to find ways to
build on your strength and
abilities that you have, find
resources, find mentors, if you
can find role models and all of
that and, at the end of the day,
besides all of this that you
look for for me, god has always
been my focus, always been my
focus.
I has always been my focus.
I think I owe it all to him
because he first helped me
discover these things that he
has placed in me.
So, and when I finally did, all
I just did was to focus on him
to say, oh okay, you are the way
, so I am trusting you to lead
me through this path I have
chosen to follow, and then to
help me develop these strengths,
these abilities, these, these
things you've, you've placed in
me.
And, yeah, once you've been
able to do that, all of this two
major things that have that has
helped me actually has been
focus and consistency.
Focus and consistency.
See, um, one second, you look
away from what you're doing.
You are doing something else
yeah you are actually doing
something else.
Just a second.
You look you are actually doing
something to be, especially
right now that we are in a very
degeneration and the world where
we are in now the distraction
is just so much.
So it has to be 100% or it's
zero.
It has to be 100% or it's zero.
So it has to be 100% or it's
zero.
So it's okay to fall, it's okay
to make mistakes, at the end of
the day, but pick yourself back
up and trace back your steps
and maintain the focus and then
be consistent, finally, at what
you are.
So you don't want to be doing a
whole lot of things at the same
time at every given point and
all of that.
So be consistent at um, what
you know your strength is what
you know your abilities.
Just follow it through.
Follow it through and you'll
just be seeing the result.
It might start coming little by
little, just like drops of water
but, at the end of the day,
when you are able to sit and
gather and take stock, you see
that you where you, where you
end up at the end of the day.
It is so far from where you
actually started from, amazing
focus and consistency.
Speaker 1: That's what I hear
you say clearly.
Uh, don't be afraid of falling,
don't be afraid of mistakes,
but you got to pick your, pick
yourself back up.
Then you go after it, you go
after it.
Guys, we've been talking with e
daniels.
Yes, today, you know the
meaning of that now is emmanuel
daniels, so whenever you see him
, yes, we've been discussing
with him you will agree with me
an amazing story he has here and
, uh, quite exciting having him
in the studio with us today.
Now one last question.
Before, uh, we wrap it up here
now, I saw you on stage.
Stage is a program hosted by
the Summit Bible Church here in
Abuja.
It brings together Afro-Gospel
and all of that, ministers and
all and again.
From that period till now, I've
seen this gradual rise for you
within this space.
How do you collaborate with
other artists or ministers,
music ministers within the body?
Speaker 2: Okay, so for me I
think personally, just like you
said, from that time to now it's
.
It's really been like a
skyrocket like an opal for me.
I I want to really just give
glory to god.
First of all, he has been the
one chatting my course, actually
.
So for some of these
collaborations that maybe you
might have seen between then and
now, let me give, for instance,
it's, it's sincerely not
something I personally went
after.
Yes, so god just crossed our
paths, make these things happen,
yeah, um, some of them reached
out to say, oh, oh, bro, can we
do this and all of that.
And then these are also some.
For some of them I tried to
reach out to.
I tried to reach out For some,
some people I tried to reach out
to before now.
Speaker 1: I can imagine yes.
Speaker 2: And right now it's
either that you are the ones
reaching out or it's no longer
as hard as it used to be between
them.
So I sincerely just give glory
to God for the times that he's
bringing me into right now.
The season he's bringing me
into right now, the season he's
bringing me into right now, yeah
, basically, I just I am open to
to.
I love, personally aside
ministry and all of that.
I love good music and sometimes
it might look like I am picky
with collaborations and all of
that, but it's just because of
the sound in my head and sound
in my mind also.
So I I look out for those
sounds that I think, yeah, this
is it for me, this is for me,
and then I try to reach out to,
and then God also, like I said,
I've been, I've been bringing
these people my way and just
crossing our paths and just be
making it happen he makes all
things beautiful in his time
Speaker 1: and that's what I
hear you, know you before now
I've been trying to do this.
I've been trying to reach this
person.
It's been impossible, but all
of a sudden the person is now
chasing me and all of that, and
uh, we give glory to god.
Yeah, I want to say a very big
thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for
having me.
Speaker 1: You know, to come
into this space and share this
positive energy with my audience
.
Nice to be here.
Thank you guys.
Please go listen to E Daniels.
Just look for him.
Just look for him everywhere,
everywhere I know lately, on
TikTok, I've been seeing you, oh
yeah, everywhere.
Everywhere I know, lately on
TikTok, I've been seeing you, oh
yeah, and all that.
So I just whenever I see those
songs, I just stop and I like,
okay, let me listen to him for
one minute or two.
You know there's this
particular one.
I saw not your song, but you
did it perfectly well.
It was this Yoruba tune, I
think it was done.
It was this Yoruba tune.
I think it was done.
It was done by you, just said
it.
Speaker 2: Yes, that was the
ministration I had in church,
and then the video.
Just, I mean, I personally
don't even have that video, but
I've just been seeing it
everywhere when I saw it I was
like, excuse me, hold on, hold
on.
Speaker 1: I had to play it over
and over and over again and
when I realised I said, okay,
let me see who did this song.
I said, okay, it's actually
another I mean another group,
but you did it.
Like I won't say you owned it,
you actually did it it's a
beautiful song.
Speaker 2: it is ministering to
me, it is.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Now, before we let you go from
the World Cafe, we have a gift
from you.
Usually, when we have our
guests, we share with them this
wonderful what do we call it now
?
A pillow, a cushion?
It's something to remember us
by.
I will just walk up to you and
you'll drop the one you're
holding, and that's it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you,
thank you so much, thank you
each time you, I mean hold it.
Speaker 1: You remember us here
at the ward cafe.
You know, live show guys.
Thanks for having me pleasure.
We, we've heard it from E
Daniels.
You, you, you, you are like, I
mean, I'm excited.
Please go listen to his songs,
stream them.
I mean he has something coming
up he just shared with us, so
get yourself ready, it would you
.
I know that because I have been
under his administration before
Exciting.
Alright guys, you know how we
say it on the show.
This is that space where we
come in to lean on one another's
experience to forge a positive
path.
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You know how we say it on the
show.
My name is Amakri, amakri Sobue
.
Bye for now, daniels, bye,
thank you.