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SPEAKER_01: Hello there.
Welcome to the World Cafe
Podcast.
This podcast has been designed.
We created content that centers
on the power of words.
Can we really do anything
without speaking?
Can we really do anything
without the agency of words?
Yes, that is what this podcast
is all about.
And I am your host, Amakri Iswe,
your neighborhood word trader.
I believe in the power of words,
for it is the unit of creation.
I trade in words to profit my
world.
So I heard this sound some time
ago done by T.Y.
Bello.
SPEAKER_00: Closer than closer
than close.
Closer than closer than close.
Closer than closer than close.
To me.
SPEAKER_01: Don't worry.
It's not about singing today.
Good morning.
Good afternoon.
Good evening.
Good everything.
How are you?
How are you?
I'm fine.
Yep, welcome to the World Cafe
Live Show.
I did that song because it's
been with me for a while.
Humming it and all of that.
The closeness of God, you know,
He it reveals a lot when you
know how close God is to you.
And that's not the conversation
for today.
Yes, you're seeing something in
front of you, the chessboard.
I had to do that song because
sometimes, not sometimes, all
the time for me, my inspiration
comes from God.
And He points me to things and I
dwell on it for a while.
I learn from it and I come to
share.
I know we've had this chess
conversation on the show before,
but that's not what we're going
to do today.
And we did a lot about that.
And I want to use the chess to
explain something that came to
me.
I call this episode the economic
chess board from my country,
Nigeria.
Yeah, a good number of us who
have come across the chess game.
It's quite uh thought-provoking.
You see it.
You have 64 spots on the board.
Alpha numeric.
One part of it you have numbers,
and the other you have uh what
do you call alphabets?
I from my own thinking is the
value system of the world is
alpha numeric.
When you look at the earth, the
value is alphanumeric, and you
have pieces on the board and all
of that.
You know, you have the the the
castle, you know, what do you
call it?
Is it yeah, the castle?
You have the the knight or the
rook as the case may be, you
have the bishop, you have the
queen, the king, the queen, you
have, you know, and all of that.
We've gone through all of that,
but I want to use that to
explain what came to me, and I
wrote about it.
I call it the economic
chessboard.
Is it the chessboard?
64 squares still remains, but
each square represents an
economic sector or industry.
Follow my thought.
For example, banking, oil and
gas, cement, telecoms,
agriculture, fintech,
infrastructure, power, creative
economy.
These are spaces.
Imagine all the boxes there.
And if you look at our society,
our world, our country, as a
people, this is what we see play
out.
You know, so the board is not
just flat.
You know, you look at it, it's
flat, but it's not just flat.
There are layers of capital that
sit beneath each square,
symbolizing how liquidity,
policy, and innovation feed
industries differently.
Yeah, you're seeing it like a
flat board, but no, underneath
the supposed uh flatness,
there's a three-dimension to it.
You're seeing the two dimensions
now, but beneath it, there's a
three-dimension to it, you know.
So now let us look at the
pieces.
We're going to start with the
actors.
I call it the economic actors,
kings.
They move slowly, but are the
ultimate guardians.
When they collapse, the entire
economy game ends.
Their survival matters more than
their dynamism.
You see?
You see that now?
Yeah, survival.
In Nigerian's context, the
federal government, the CBN, and
the regulatory institutions,
they are the kingmakers, they
are the kings.
I beg your pardon.
You know, come up with the
policies and all of that.
Yep.
Then the queens, visionary
industrialists like Dangote,
Ilumelu, Tedola, Rabiu, Adenuga.
So I'm using this to talk about
the economic landscape of
Nigeria.
It's for learning purposes,
anyway, to stimulate our minds
for us to see, you know.
So they move across the board,
you know, like the queen, they
move across the board with the
most power, representing
influence across multiple
industries.
You know, when you look at the
chessboard, the queen can move
in any direction.
Yeah, but the the king moves
just like we explained slowly,
but that you know, uh they are
the ultimate guardians.
So you see that, for example,
now Dangote is mental sugar,
oil, and refinery.
UBA, power, you know, transcop
and uh entrepreneurship, the
Ilmelu uh foundation.
So their strength lies in
diversification and reach, much
like the queen.
Yes, that's the strength.
Lies in you know, you know, when
we we started hearing the name
Ilmelu in Nigeria, it was in
banking, if you remember, in
banking, but today that name has
moved on even into power, the
power sector has moved on even
into the oil and gas.
When you talk about power, the
transcop power, yes, then you
talk about the oil and gas as
holding.
Yeah, then let us look at the
the rook's conglomerates and
institutions, strong, long-range
moves.
You know the way the rook moves
on the chessboard, they
represent B corporations and
pan-African institutions, like
Dangote Group, the UBA group,
the MTN, African Bank.
You see, that's what we see on
the on the I mean, we see they
move straight, signifying
structure, sector-wide
dominance, like the rook moves
on the board.
Straight, you know the rook,
what we call the castle or the
rook.
So that's what they represent.
Then the bishops, innovators,
and strategic investors.
Yes, this piece.
That's what they look like.
The bishops, they move
diagonally, representing
unconventional angles of wealth
being created and at the same
time being disrupted.
So unconventional diagonal
moves.
Example of those are fintech,
the fintech founders like
Paystack, Flutterwave, and new
green energy players.
They are really not following,
quote unquote, the supposed
established rules, they are
disruptors, they come to disrupt
the market, the bishops.
Then the ninth, they are the
deal makers and opportunists,
they move in L shape,
symbolizing agility, surprise,
and leverage.
That's how they move.
These are entrepreneurs like
Oteola, strategic entry, exit.
In you know what happened in
Fort Oil for those of us who
were following the Fort Oil, the
way he entered and exited, I
mean, exited, I beg your pardon,
you know, then the Girigu power
or venture capitalists who
thrive on timing, so they
observe the bishops, observe,
you know, and all of that.
They don't move linearly but
leap over obstacles.
In other way, uh, what do you
call the knights move?
Three steps the L shape, L
shape.
So they can jump.
Yes, these are what we have.
Then the pawns, SMEs, startups,
and grassroots entrepreneurs,
they are very numerous, but they
are vulnerable, they advance
slowly.
When they reach the opposite
side, they can transform,
mirroring how African SMEs can
scale into global firms if they
survive.
Yes, you know what the pawns
are, they are the dispensable
pieces on the board, but the
more they travel, you know.
I've talked about that the
travel, I mean the journey of
the pawn on the chessboard, the
more they travel and they get to
the other end of the board, they
are more or less like promoted,
they are elevated, you know.
So they were small, despite not
the days of little beginnings,
but they have grown, and now
they are also deal makers and
what have you.
Yep.
So let us look at it now.
The moves, so the opening, you
know.
Let's start, let's just explain
something.
Colonial legacy and extractive
economies.
The first moves are heavily
constrained, like starting from
inherited colonial structures.
The pawns represent early
indigenous entrepreneurs pushing
forward against imported
dominance.
It's self-explanatory.
The middle game consolidation
and morganization.
I know I've talked about
Morganization on this show
before.
For those of you who are
following or who've been
following, you know, JP Morgan.
You've heard about JP Morgan,
one of the strongest banks in
the world.
Yes, in the US, he started
something, he's he was a man, JP
Morgan.
He started something, he moved
Wall Street from Pennsylvania to
New York.
Yep, he did that, came up with
so many banking, would I say uh
laws, policies in the US.
So now let us look at the
middleman, consolidation and
organization.
Just like JP Morgan consolidated
railroads and steel, the
railroads of America and the
steel needed money.
JP Morgan came up with a
structure, he consolidated,
bringing them together, like for
them to communicate.
So African industrialists are
consolidating key industries.
For example, Dangote organizes
cement and now oil.
Ilumelu organizes banking and
power is consolidating.
The game becomes about building
alliances, controlling entire
fields and entire files and
diagonals.
You understand what that means
on the chessboard, industries
and regions, you're networking
them, bringing them together,
neutralizing rivals through
measures and acquisitions.
Alright then.
End game.
So imagine taking up those uh
what I call a trade barriers.
It means each of the squares can
communicate with themselves, you
know, easily.
All right, special.
All right, let us look at it.
Some rules, some rules on the
chess board that we can
translate.
There's what is called castling
strategic alliances example
Dangote partnering with state
governments or Ilumilu working
with global institutions like
IFC and Passant.
It's a it's a kind of rule uh on
the chessboard, regulatory
ambush, sudden government
policies, forex, uh, forex bans,
fuel subsidy removals, new tax
regime that capture players
unexpectedly.
These are, you know, then
promotion, SMEs to conglomerate.
I talked about them earlier,
where pawns that reach the last
rank symbolize African
entrepreneurs whose scale, for
example, Pay Stack, reaching
global relevance with Stripe.
You heard about it when Stripe
came for PayStack, and you know
there was this collaboration,
more or less like uh PayStack
has grown across the chessboard,
her journey to the other end,
creating a unique entity.
Now, victory conditions.
Okay, let us look at this
victory conditions.
Uh not just checkmate.
If you want to win, you
checkmate and all that, but this
is beyond that.
Victory is sustainable economic
dominance and societal impact.
You see, a player may win by one
number one, monopoly or
consolidation, owning an entire
industry, just like what we see
with that.
I mean with Dangote, cement and
refinery, owning an entire you
know, diversification, spreading
across multiple sectors, just
like what Elumelu did, finance,
power, and hospitality, yeah,
innovation leap, disrupting
incumbents, like what Flutter
Wave did, and Junior, you know,
the e-commerce thing, then
policy influence, aligning with
the king, yes, governments to
secure long-term dominance.
So this the chess game becomes a
mirror of Africa's economy,
particularly Nigeria, where
names like Dangote, Elumelu, or
Tedola, and the others play as
queens, rooks, and bishops and
knights in a grand dance of
consolidation, innovation, and
survival.
The JP Morgan Morganization
parallels show up in how they
organize chaos interstructure,
capturing not just squares on a
board, but entire industries in
Africa.
So the you know that's one thing
about chess.
It helps you think strategy, it
helps you think uh, it broadens
your horizon.
It's not just a game for
entertainment, it's a game that
teaches you so much.
Yep, economics, politics,
strategy, war games, and all of
that.
And I I mean when it came to me,
I felt like okay, when I worked
on this, I said I'm going to uh
bring it and uh share it with my
with you, my audience, to know
that you can learn a lot and
there are so much opportunities.
Don't forget how all of this
started in terms of the
economics for our country from
the colonial, so the smaller
entities who went into the game
and started to grow, and here
they are today.
Someone will ask, so what do you
expect of me?
Play more chess, maybe engage
your mind more, maybe in the
economic landscape of your
country, our country.
Yeah, you can be part of it, you
can be part of it.
That's the truth.
That is what the chess game
teaches you, like the pawn,
quite insignificant, but her
journey on the board.
If you take your time to study
her journey on the board, she
ends up, or he ends up becoming
the king or even the queen, as
the case may be.
Alright, guys.
Uh that's what I came to do on
the show today, just to share
this with you, uh, to stimulate
your mind, for you to think, for
you to like really think, engage
your mind.
Why are things not working the
way I want them to work?
It could be you're not looking
in that direction.
Yep.
It could be you're not moving in
the right, what I call it,
square on the chess board.
It could be you're moving in.
The wrong direction.
Or it could be you're not even
doing anything, you're just
there complaining.
But this will help you.
Are you a business person?
Whatever you are into, this will
help you.
Policymaker, this will help you.
For your information, life is
not a game, but gamification
will help you.
I know certain organizations
that are bringing gamification
into their activities.
You know, it seems like you are
entertaining yourself, it seems
like you're playing, it's it
seems like you're more or less
like quote unquote joking, but
actually you're learning.
You are learning, you're
bringing things into reality and
tangibility, and that is what we
came to do on the show today.
Well, I'm not a chess fan, per
se, but I love observing.
And when I observe things, I
learn from it, and from that I
come on the show and I share
with you.
You know, so everything around
me teaches me everything,
everything.
It calls my attention, and I
give it a look and I say, Okay,
this is what you're telling me.
Okay, this is how you want me to
put it.
Okay, fine, I'm going out there,
I'm gonna put it out there.
Parents, I want to encourage if
you're a parent, mother, father,
a school, encourage the children
to play games.
Yes, games like chess, monopoly,
scrabble, uh, jenga.
Why?
Because it helps with this.
Yes, your brain power, your
mind.
You know, it helps fuel your
mind.
It resources, it resources, I
beg your pardon, the mind with
techniques, with strategy, with
moves, it expands it to, I mean,
that horizon, it takes away the
blocks or the blockade and the
blockages.
I beg your pardon.
It takes all of that away, and
you're seeing possibilities.
Ah, yes, that's what it does.
Gamification helps you see
possibilities, it makes you
think, it makes you ask the
right questions, it makes you
unpack and repack.
It even helps you to destroy
things in a good sense, like you
pull it down in the from the
point of disruption, and you
begin to gradually build them
up.
It teaches resilience, it
teaches patience, it teaches uh
strategic moves.
If you have a child who is
restless, bring a game, it will
teach, all right, guys.
You know how we say it on the
show.
This is the space where we come
in to lean on one and others
experience to what forge a
positive path, and this is what
we've came to want to show today
the economic chessboard in
Nigeria.
Pay attention, pay attention.
We are all in that game, all of
us, consciously and
unconsciously, from our
subconscious.
All right, then I need to go, I
need to go get ready again.
Yes, yes, yes.
I'm going to bring some fresh
inspiration, fresh observation,
and take you to that level.
Alright, then gotta go now.
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When we share, it increases.
When we share, it increases.
It doesn't reduce, it increases
because there's love in sharing.
All right, then I have to run
down till I come your way again.
You know how I say it.
My name is Abakri.
Abakri is away.
unknown: Bye for now.
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Bye for now.