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Speaker 1: Hello there, welcome
to the World Cafe podcast.
This podcast has been designed
with created content that
centers on the power of words.
Can we really do anything
without speaking?
Can we really do anything
without the agency of words?
Yes, that is what this podcast
is all about, and I am your host
, amakri Isuboye, your
neighborhood word trader.
I believe in the power of words
, for it is the unit of creation
.
I trade in words to profit my
world.
Good morning, good afternoon,
good evening, good, everything.
Wherever you are on the surface
of the earth, this very instant
, hearing my voice, how are you
doing?
Welcome to the word cafe
podcast.
How are you doing?
What is it like at your end?
Yes, what's happening?
The weather, you know life and
all of that.
I know you're good, I'm good
where I am.
Yep, I'm good Thanking God for
life, thanking God for grace,
thanking God for his mercies,
thanking God for everything.
Ah, yes, like I always say,
this is my safe space.
Whenever I come into this, be
it virtual or physical, as you
may want to call it space, I
come alive.
Yes, because I have one thing
that makes me so, so happy Words
.
Yep, for me, they are the unit
of creation, ah, yes.
So so what are we going to be
doing today?
A lot has been going on, you
know a lot, a lot.
Recently I was a privilege,
honored, you know.
I was invited to like share
some thoughts on our career
transitions, and I was so glad
that's by the Gemstone
Foundation, that is, by my
mentor, saffella Derotoy, and it
was quite pleasant, I must say.
Now, it's not just about career
transitioning.
Now, for me, you know, one big
chunk of our lives that we
cannot do without, no matter how
much you try, it will never go
away is work.
Yes, we express our lives
through work.
You may call it vocation,
occupation, profession, whatever
you want to call it.
The bottom line is work.
As somebody said, there's
dignity in labor, labor, as in
work, there's dignity and
there's a lot.
Our lives.
Work practically defines who we
are.
We are known by what we do,
just like what scripture says,
by their fruits.
They will be known, you shall
know them.
So if you want to have a good
knowledge about anybody, look at
what they do.
For, as we call it a living,
what brings you up in the
morning, sets you on your way
and you go out frantically,
moving from one end of the earth
to the other.
Work, yep, and it was exciting.
So I want to share some
thoughts from that meeting, what
I shared, that meeting, what I
shared.
But now I'm looking at it beyond
the, the, the, the, the, the
worlds of work.
I'm looking at it, even our
lives.
You know, there's something
that we deal with every day of
our lives change, how to move
from one point to the other.
We deal with it, be it in our
personal space, with our kids
for those of us who have kids
with our wives, our husbands,
our spouses, as the case may be,
there's always this change.
Even if you look at it
internally, there's change going
on.
You know when you put food in
your mouth, you know the journey
it makes from your mouth to the
point of metabolism and your
body takes in the nutrients and
releases the waste.
All of these processes, they
are facilitated by the
phenomenon called change.
So you must have courage to
change.
I take that again you must have
courage to change.
Sometimes you need to initiate,
yes, to break out, and change
follows a pattern, a process.
Yep, it follows a process.
You know, just like you for a
musical piece, you see the way
the transitions come, how you
jump from one note to the other.
But there's something I've come
to realize that every form of
change takes this energy from us
, be it a physical exhaustion or
a spiritual exhaustion.
You know like you need to exalt
yourself.
There's this change that comes,
but it's driven by energy.
So I'm going to begin this
conversation from looking at it,
from the thermodynamic
principles.
You know, like you for those of
us who did physics in school or
chemistry you want to bring
about a change in the system.
You consider things like
pressure, volume, time.
The minute you change one of
these factors, or rather the
minute you alter one of these
factors, there's a change you
have initiated into that system.
Like when you look at uh, the
energy levels in our electrons,
as we're told, I mean basic uh
physics when an electron wants
to move from one energy field to
the other, it's a question of
being excited.
It receives this jolt of energy
, this bolt if I want to use
that word now of energy, and
boom, it moves from, it becomes
excited and it jumps practically
from one level of energy field
to a higher level.
That is change.
But all of this is hinged on
that principle of energy.
Yeah, energy, it could be
physical, it could be spiritual,
but you need for any change to
take place, we need energy and
we need courage to manage this
energy.
So I'm going to go through it
now.
Uh, enough said, okay, let's
continue this journey.
Now, what I did that day was on
career.
You know career transitions.
You're switching from one
industry and you know changing
from one industry to the other,
or you're moving from one career
path to the other.
So let us view it like you're
climbing some set of stairs.
You know you're moving from the
lower end of the stairs.
You know upwards flight of
stairs, even if it's ascending
or descending, as the case may
be, but there's this energy you
need to like gather to take
those steps as you move.
Now I want us to look at it from
this point.
You don't rush into a new
career.
No, you don't rush into it.
You don't rush into a new
career.
No, you don't rush into it.
You don't just jump into a new
role without identifying the
skills and knowledge you need.
You know the result.
You jeopardize those, should I
say moment.
So you need to sit down, ask
yourself you know certain
questions Like you use a gap
analysis.
You look at where you are
presently, the job you're doing,
the role you're covering.
As against, you know the new
role you want to, uh, you want
to like a step into.
You.
Look at that.
What do I possess now in terms
of skill sets and all of that,
as against the competences
required in, uh, covering that
role?
It's like saying somebody who
wants to like get married.
You know, you think you're of
age, you want to get married.
But you need to ask yourself
certain questions.
As a guy or as a lady, do I
possess X, y, z in terms of our,
would I say, skills you know to
like cover this role?
Do I really have it?
You ask yourself all of these
questions before you jump into
it.
So you carry out that gap
analysis to know, okay, what is
required.
This is what I possess
presently, what you think I need
like to like, you know a new
rule and all of that.
So you don't just jump into it.
You actually ask yourself these
questions.
You know and you will see, it
will come up.
Then you know your why.
You know, before transitioning,
before that movement, you need
to ask yourself necessary
questions.
This new career I'm going into,
why you reflect on what are the
motivations, what's motivating
you?
Why do you want to go into that
new role?
Is it because, like the famous
saying, job satisfaction, I am
not satisfied.
I want to, you know, get more
out of my job and all of that.
That is why.
Is that the reason?
Is that why you want to go into
that?
Well, if so, why not?
If not, you jump in.
If so, why not?
If not, you jump in?
Yes, why not?
If not, you jump in.
But you must ask yourself, you
must know your why.
Or another reason, again, is
that you're looking for
flexibility, like what you're
doing currently, uh, is giving
you so much.
Uh, what I say is not allowing
you.
You know, like, do other things
, so you need flexibility is
affecting your work, your life,
your home and all of that.
So you now begin to think, okay
, what would I do that will give
me time to, like, fulfill all
the others that all of this must
come from knowing your why, you
know, knowing your why.
Then again, after you've known
your why, you become self-aware.
You just have to be self-aware.
By understanding your strengths
, weaknesses and boundaries, you
know, you can make a more
informed decision about whether
or not a career change is good
for you.
Know your why yourself.
You must know yourself.
Who are you, who am I?
Now that I know my why?
Because I want to transit.
Who am I, you know?
Are you a patient person?
You ask yourself.
Look at yourself in the mirror.
Yes, look at yourself in the
mirror and ask all of those
questions, because if you don't
know who you are, the likelihood
of transiting becomes like a
big, big, big problem for you,
uh-huh.
So you must know that.
Then you do the leg walk.
You don't just sit down and
wish no, if wishes were horses,
beggars would ride.
So you want to fit in or
supersede your talent and all of
that.
So you must know, you just have
to.
You go out, you do the legwork,
make the necessary research.
You know the industry and all
that.
Recently I was looking at this
report about profitable
businesses globally.
You know that the most, the 10,
most profitable businesses in
the world.
So I was going through the list
.
We just had two industries.
You know two yes, that's the
tech space and oil and gas, or
what we call energy.
You know, within the energy
spaces, you hear names like
Saudi Aramco, exxon Mobil and
what have you?
All of them.
You hear big names like that.
Then, in the tech space, things
like Apple, you know Alphabet,
google and the rest of them.
So the question now is these
are the most profitable, 10 most
profitable businesses in the
world.
So we tell the resources on the
earth, you know a given a good
chunk of it will be within the
spaces.
So if I want to like also get in
there, I have to like
understand these spaces, how
they work and all of that.
So I had to do my research.
You know, like you, you hear
people who find themselves
within the culinary space, maybe
fashion or, uh, tech space, and
they just tell you I want to
pivot, I want to, I want to
transit, I want to like that,
and you ask certain questions
that they don't have an idea,
they don't have a clue of where,
of what happens in that space
that they desire.
But listen, you just have to
get yourself involved.
How Research, ask questions.
Yeah, you take a course, do
courses on those areas.
Like I want to go into the oil
and gas space.
What do you know about oil and
gas?
Or the energy space, renewable
energy and all of that?
What do you know about oil and
gas?
Or the energy space, renewable
energy and all of that?
What do you know about it?
What do you know about oil
politics?
Do you have a good
understanding of oil politics.
So these are the things you
begin to ask yourself Okay, I
want to go into the tech space.
What do you know about the tech
space?
What is happening today, with
all the artificial intelligence
flying everywhere and all of
that, the narrative?
So you do the leg walk.
You don't just sit down there,
you do the leg walk, then you
grow your network.
It is very key.
It is very key.
You know you be on the lookout
for professionals you can relate
with in your desired career.
This relationship doesn't have
to be direct.
I say it could be a virtual
relations I mean relationship, I
beg your pardon where you
follow these people as thought
leaders or in in what they do.
You find yourself within them.
A good example is like okay, I
want to, I want to go into the
leadership space, I want to go
into that.
You know industry, that career
or that space.
I look for a good, a big name
there, somebody like maybe john
maxwell.
I look at john maxwell, I look
at the people that follow him.
I see, maybe, names like the
catalyst, larry alushola.
I see names like the nation
builder, safela Durutwe.
I see people like maybe
Vuzitembe Kwayo and the rest of
them and it's like okay, and you
go follow them, see what they
are doing.
You know the kind of structure
they have and the kind of
materials you see within their
space.
It's like, okay, these are the
kind of things they do.
So you begin to follow, you
know, you follow.
In Nigeria we say follow who
know road.
So you're following, you know
them in that and you're also
growing your capacity.
This will help, you know, you
leverage on their experiences or
social connections to succeed
in the industry.
Yes, you encounter them.
So you don't just sit down and
tell yourself, okay, this is
wish, I wish.
No, you don't just wish you
move, you move like make those
move, you move and all of that.
And you have to understand you.
You don't have to be selfish
here.
You don't have to be
self-centered.
Even if you're becoming
self-aware and knowing your why,
you don't have to be
self-centered.
Rather, you need to reach out,
break out of that cocoon and
create the network and from
there you begin to grow.
These principles can be applied
across board, not just in
career alone managing our homes.
Change is a constant.
We live in the bubble of change
.
Every day we wake up to one
form of change.
You know our within us.
Again, just the head, and you
know the head.
You don't rush into a career,
don't rush into that decision.
Take your time, know your why,
yes, know your why.
Then you become self-aware.
Knowledge is key here.
Being aware, you know, is
self-aware.
Then you do the legwork.
Uh-huh, you work, you do the
leg walk.
You don't just sit down, you do
the leg walk, go around, search
things out, you know, and all
of that.
Then you grow your network.
You are not an island.
No, you are not, and you
shouldn't be.
You should be afloat.
You should be flowing, you know
, and you shouldn't be.
You should be a flow, it should
be flowing, you know, and all
of that.
Well, guys, this is what I came
to do on the show today, just to
share this with you.
I hope you've learned one, one
thing or two from this.
But listen, in all of this,
have it at the back of your mind
.
Work defines who we are.
That's why we're here and we
can make the best.
We can make the best of it.
All right, guys, you know how
we say it on the show till I
come your way again.
Bye for now.
Awesome time it has been with
you on the World Cafe podcast
today.
Thank you for being there.
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