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SPEAKER_02: The chaos theory
bringing order to the chaos.
You know I'm big about words,
writing, creating.
So the other day I asked myself,
what is writing all about?
How do you begin to write?
Where do you start from?
And what came to my mind was
what you're seeing before me
now.
I see writing as bringing order
to chaos.
Those things that bother your
mind.
The voices, permit me to use
that that you hear.
How do you bring meaning from
them all?
And what came to me was the
ordering of words.
And how do you order words?
Like, you know, this is a W.
You heard word.
So you see W and you look for an
O.
And uh yes, you look for what
follows an O.
You have an R.
Then you look for a D.
What do you have?
What comes out is word.
But actually, what you're trying
to communicate is a value.
The value behind the character
or the letter or the letters
word.
And that's what you try to
communicate.
But now imagine how many minutes
it took me to bring W-O-R-D.
It took me time.
Yes, times.
So what does that connot or
suggest?
When you are creating patience,
it's a value.
Patience.
You need to be patient.
What does patience give you at
the time that you're searching
for?
The right, would I say letter,
the right mode, the right
context to create patience, and
what follows next?
The architecture of you know
words.
The architecture of words.
Okay, now this is what I'm
trying to do.
Yes.
So it is not.
Oh, what should follow?
Tell me what should follow.
And A.
Aha.
You know what I'm trying to do.
What am I trying to do?
I'm trying to talk about what
you always hear me.
You see, we're searching.
Patience drives you to
searching.
So what are you searching for?
The right alphabet, the right,
yes.
Uh-huh.
Yes, you just saw me.
I did that.
You see, it takes time, and this
time helps you to search.
In searching, you come in
contact with so many things.
Resilience is born, patience is
born, then the architecture is
also, you understand?
Aha, yes.
The architecture, you're now
looking at okay, how best do I
present this thought behind all
of this chaos?
So you take your time and you
pick them.
And as you're picking them,
there's a journey there.
You have construction on the
back of architecture, on the
back of a narrative, but because
you're surrounded by all of
this.
So you have now choice.
Yes, I'm coming.
You have choice.
The word cafe.
Yes, you know what I'm trying to
do.
Uh-huh.
P O.
I'm coming.
I'm coming.
Oh, yes, I'm looking for a D
because that is what it sounds
like.
You see?
So it you now have the
architecture, you're building on
something.
That's it.
Then yes, I saw it.
Uh huh, I saw it.
And give me a minute, I will
explain to you.
And that's that.
In one word, or let us so you
see, the word cafe podcast.
So I have come to see that in
the business of writing the
creative art, we are surrounded
by a lot of chaos.
And what we're trying to do is
to bring order to that chaos.
And when you're trying to
communicate or bring order to
that chaos, one thing is behind
order that brings meaning to
everything, and that is value.
And now, in trying to create
this order, knowing that you
want to give value, what happens
is I would say you harness all
of the competences, one of
which, in my opinion, very
fundamental, is what?
Patience.
To be a good writer, to be a
good creator, patience.
Because one thing about patience
is time-based.
Patience is a function of time.
I said once, who was I talking
to once, and I said to him, the
wisdom of patience will teach
you speed.
And it sounds like an irony or
something.
How would patience teach you
speed?
This is it.
When you are in the belly of
patience, what ordinarily would
have taken you maybe a hundred
years to achieve.
You might be so surprised within
the belly of patience, it will
take you less than a hundred
years.
Because within the crucible of
patience, you've come to
understand the dynamics, how
things work.
You've slowed down a lot of
things.
Your senses, how you perceive,
how you uh imbibe, how you
receive.
And you begin to construct.
Patience will teach you the
construct of language.
Patience will teach you the
architecture, how to put words
or letters together in creating
value.
So at the end of the day, you
come to see that you are
surrounded with what you call
chaos.
It's actually the material all
around you, like the letters
you're seeing here all around
you.
So you bring them together, you
know, and in bringing them
together, you come to see that,
like an architect, okay, this
fits, this fits here, that fits
there.
No, this does not fit here.
So you are putting, you're
bringing the um scrambled, would
I say, materials, you're
bringing order into them.
And a little here, a little
there, a piece here, a piece
there, you are coming to form a
reality which the whole world,
maybe your audience or whatever,
they come to now see.
So that thing you think is
chaos, is opportunity.
It's a material.
It is what I call it uh a space
for you to jump into and bring
out the best.
I have been in this space for a
while, and this is what I see,
and that is why I have come to
share this with you.
That chaos, that disorderliness,
the entropy, as it were, is not
a challenge, it is the
opportunity.
So, as a writer or as a
creative, you need to take that.
You need to put it together.
But don't forget, we live in
time and space.
So, because of the limitation of
time and space, you need to give
yourself that opportunity to
work in time and space.
So it might work today,
tomorrow, and the other day, and
the other day.
You don't give up.
You know, the best work I have
seen in terms of in the creative
space is not the instant.
It's not what just happened.
It is what happened and began to
travel and began to grow and
began to like gather momentum,
and over time it appears.
Rather, go around, check in the
creative space the best works of
art, the best work of
creativity, be it in writing, be
it in singing, be it in dancing
and all of that.
It's all about bringing order to
the chaos.
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
All right.
What word do I form now before I
run away from this place?
The word cafe, podcast.
SPEAKER_02: So, what do we say
next?
Uh, should I leave it to format?
I think I should leave it to
form it.
You are not crazy.
You are only bringing order to
chaos.
You are ordering the letters,
you are ordering the alphabet,
you are ordering those things
that come into your head.
SPEAKER_00: You're trying to
bring meaning, value.
All right.
Okay then.
Let me form more words.
What do we form now again?
The Word Cafe Podcast.
SPEAKER_02: With who?
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
SPEAKER_02: No, this is not a W,
this is an M.
SPEAKER_01: So I'm going to look
for that's a W.
Yes, that's a W.
And that's an I.
SPEAKER_02: I like the colors
anyway.
SPEAKER_01: Yes, and I.
And uh look for hmm.
SPEAKER_02: What do I look for
now?
SPEAKER_01: I look for a T.
And I look for what do I look
for again?
I look for an H.
Yes.
And I look for an M.
Because I know N comes somewhere
there.
And I look for another E.
SPEAKER_02: You see?
It is fun.
And Max.
The word cafe podcast with a
max.
It took me time, but it is here.
And uh it is traveling.
Okay, now let us see another
thing again that we can form.
SPEAKER_01: Okay, let's see.
Let's see.
Let us form an N.
SPEAKER_02: Okay, an N.
I know you you may guess what
I'm trying to spell there.
Yes, and I go with a G.
Uh, you're trying to figure out.
Yes, what comes next?
You see, I'm going to look for
what am I looking for now?
Tell me, what am I what am I
supposed to look for?
SPEAKER_01: Tell me, what am I
supposed to look for?
Ah, yes, an E.
SPEAKER_02: And what I oh yes,
you got it.
I'm in Nigeria, and so I am
taking my yes.
What am I supposed to do here
again?
And you see, this is how we
bring order to chaos.
You know, okay.
What do you want me to do now?
Oh, I took the T out of there.
Okay, let me replace the T and
I'll let you go create your
world.
I believe in the power of words,
for it is the unit of creation.
I trade in words to profit my
world.
SPEAKER_00: I am your
neighborhood, what trader?
The wordsmith.
All right then, go create.