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SPEAKER_01: Hello there.
Welcome to the World Cafe
Podcast.
This podcast has been designed
with created content that
centers on the power of words.
Can we really do anything
without speaking?
Can we really do anything
without the agency of words?
Yes, that is what this podcast
is all about.
And I am your host, Amakri Iswe,
your neighborhood word trader.
I believe in the power of words,
for it is the unit of creation.
I trade in words to profit my
world.
They call me an addict.
Then I say I'm an enthusiast.
Say it loud, say it proud.
Good morning.
Good afternoon.
Good evening.
Good everything.
Welcome to the World Cafe Live
Show.
Yes, you know how we say it.
This is that space where we come
in to lean on one another's
experience and do what?
Forge a positive path.
I'm super excited today because
you see why I am super excited.
Uh what are we going to be doing
today?
Well, before I do that, I have
brought the word cafe into
someone so special.
Her space.
SPEAKER_02: She racks firewall.
SPEAKER_01: Ow! Don't worry,
he's not coming.
I have today on the set with me
my lovely wife.
You guys know her as Chef T.
I call her my Wonder Woman, but
for the purpose of why we are
here, she is Chef T.
Abuja one and only super chef.
Yeah, I'm excited.
How are you, baby?
SPEAKER_03: I'm doing great,
thank you.
SPEAKER_01: How do you feel?
I'm in your space today.
Hope I'm not encroaching.
You are goodness gracious.
SPEAKER_03: And I'll make you
pay for it.
SPEAKER_01: Cash and kind.
SPEAKER_00: I was it.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
So, guys, I've decided to do
this.
The title of this episode is
When Food Meets Word.
What do you think will happen?
Boom! Excitement, satisfaction,
flavor, flying.
It's not flavor na balio.
All right, guys.
That is why we are here.
I've told you before, if you
remember, I'm married to a chef
who has somehow conquered that
space with her covenary skills.
I describe her as one who cooks
for the gods.
Who are the gods you want to
know?
Enough.
Let's meet the one and only Chef
T Abuja's number one.
Oh, yeah, I don't do talk about
yourself.
SPEAKER_02: If why didn't you
give me drum rolls?
You would have to do it.
Kanga.
SPEAKER_03: Okay, hello
everybody.
Um, I am Chef T, Abuja's go-to
chef for busy executives, and
this man here has decided to
come into my space for some
reason.
Let's see how it goes.
SPEAKER_01: All right, guys,
before we do anything, you can
see she's ready to prepare
lunch.
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
SPEAKER_01: So that's why I
said, why do the lunch alone?
Let us lunch together, eat
together, exactly, and that's
why we're here.
But before you go through all of
that, I will ask you this
question because even if I know
that I want my audience and the
world to hear you, how did it
begin for you?
How did you discover this?
And how?
SPEAKER_03: Well, I don't think
I decided to be a chef.
I think food chose me.
Yes, because um food is a living
thing now.
Food chose me.
I grew up cooking in my mom's
bar, so I didn't necessarily
have a choice.
It wasn't my dream to be a chef,
but I fell in love with cooking
because I had to cook, and I saw
that okay, so it's not that bad
after all.
The experience that people get
when they eat the food, the
expression on your face when you
eat my food.
So it's heavenly, you know, when
you it's when you take a bite of
meat and you close your eyes, or
you take a spoon of rice and you
just close your eyes, you don't
even need to say thank you after
the meal.
It just shows that you've
entered another realm.
SPEAKER_01: Okay, uh, what's
your philosophy?
Because now, guys, why I'm
asking her what's her
philosophy.
I'm not saying this because
she's my one and only, my amor
and me.
But she has this way with food,
like I have with words.
She's very poetic when she does
that.
And I really want to understand,
and I want you to hear it from
her.
What's the philosophy?
SPEAKER_03: So basically, for
me, food is an expression.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: When I cook for you,
I want to connect with you at a
certain level.
Wow, I want you to experience me
through my meals.
And when you do that, your
response is what feeds me.
Your response is what drives me.
That experience, that expression
on your face when you eat the
food and you say, Oh, Chef T,
this meal is so good.
That's what fills me, that's
what fuels me to do, even more.
SPEAKER_01: You have said so
much in just one word.
Hunger fuels, passion fills me.
So it feels like somebody who
has discovered her essence and
allow that essence to ooze out
like a sweet smell and perfume.
That whoever gets in contact
with that perfume is would I use
the word endeared, captured,
enraptured.
He just had to use the into her
worlds, more or less.
Okay, so what are we doing
today?
SPEAKER_03: Okay, today I just
want to make um fried rice with
some leftover white rice.
Okay, so we're going to make
this a very simple, basic, well,
simple for me, but not for a lot
of people.
SPEAKER_01: So let's go through
your process.
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so first I'm
going to wash my hands.
I've touched a lot of things.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: Food safety.
SPEAKER_01: She's a professional
doctor, so she's teaching us
now.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
Okay.
So I've washed my hands.
I have some chicken here that
I'm going to chop up.
Now, this is just some pancreat
chicken.
And I'm going, my hands are
clean so I can touch my food.
SPEAKER_01: All right.
SPEAKER_03: So I'm just going to
chop this up nicely.
Okay.
Because I'm going to use it.
Would you like to try some?
SPEAKER_01: I don't mind.
Indeed.
The chicken is chicken.
So basically, when you're doing
this, what goes through your
head?
Or should I say your mind?
SPEAKER_03: So, first of all, I
love what I do.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: So I'm in my happy
place.
SPEAKER_01: In your comfort
zone.
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
So I don't feel like I'm
walking.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: I'm just um leaving.
Leaving, yeah.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_03: So the first thing
that comes to my mind is who am
I cooking for?
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: So when I cook for
you, just last night I was
having a conversation with
Jezreel, and I was telling them
that when he was younger, he
would say, Mommy, why is it that
when I when you cook for daddy,
it's always special, it's always
different.
So I tell him, Well, because his
daddy, he's my husband, when
it's your turn, we pray that
your wife will be able to give
you the same.
Be more intentional, okay, and
ensure that you get the best.
SPEAKER_01: All right.
So, from what I hear, you're
you're you're more or less
creating a connection with your
customer, your client.
You are thinking about their
satisfaction, yeah, you're
thinking about their well-being,
how what you're doing will
translate into positivity in
them, you know, by way of
nutrition, eating, and all of
that.
So, how do you how do you pick
your your your your ingredients
now?
How do you do that?
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so first of
all, I when I cook for any
clients, I want to find out what
their specific needs are.
Okay, it's very important to
know what your customers um
want, what will benefit them.
Uh, it's not just um about okay,
make me a meal and then get paid
and all of that.
Yeah, because you want them to
have an experience through your
meals.
For me, I want them to, I want
to know what they need.
Okay, so I cook to their
specification.
All right.
I want to ensure that I'm
meeting their nutritional needs.
Some people like their food
spicy, some don't.
Some like bones, some don't.
Okay.
You know, some others will say,
Oh, Chef T, I don't want um um
artificial seasoning.
Okay, I want just um the
crayfish, you know, whatever it
is.
Yeah, I ensure that I put that
into consideration so that when
I'm cooking, I am actually
giving them giving them that
experience that's so so makes
them come back.
SPEAKER_01: So I hear you say
you engage with your clients at
a level, yes, more or less.
You ask all of these questions,
you don't just assume.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yes.
SPEAKER_01: Now, do you think
your your clients or the people
you cook for have a particular
kind of taste or palette that is
maybe African, sub-Saharan,
European?
Do you think?
And if you do, how do you
approach it?
SPEAKER_03: Okay, of course they
do.
SPEAKER_01: I we can see she's
handling the carrot now.
SPEAKER_03: Yes, I need to prep.
One way I cook is to prep before
I start.
That way the cooking process is
shorter, okay, and um,
everything just goes in.
So, your question again?
SPEAKER_01: The question is from
everything you have described so
far, in terms of how you relate
with your clients, the questions
you ask, do you maybe in course
of your uh journey come to like
appreciate their taste?
Okay, this person likes this
kind of taste.
Take for example, what I mean by
that is in Africa or Nigeria to
be precise, uh, the Ibo tribe
has a particular way they want
their meals prepared.
Uh, the Yoruba has this kind of
uh South South, Calabari,
Iquare, and the rest of them.
Do you take note of all of this
so that when you are, should I
say, responding, you don't
assume, you curate it.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, sure.
I do that.
Um recently, a client that I
cooked for last year called me.
He's um, I think he's Ishekiri.
So he called me um recently and
said I should come and cater for
him.
So the last time I cooked for
him, I I saw that he had okay,
so the event was for some
royalties, you know, some
kingsmen and some sort of I
don't know, they had all these
big chorals and everything, they
were quite elderly.
And so after I made we he asked
for specific meals, you know,
yeah, that um relate to the
tribe.
So this time around, because I
know him and I know what he
likes, it was easy for me to um
add it to the menu when I was
preparing a menu for him.
Okay, so because I know, so when
my clients call, yes, I want to
know their tribe if they are
willing, and I'm open to cook
for anyone from anywhere.
I've had I've made meals for
clients who are not Africans,
okay, and even when I don't know
their traditional meals, I do a
research and I ensure that I
deliver to them what they have
asked of me.
SPEAKER_01: So that aspect of
research, you just took it out
of my mouth because I was about
asking.
So I I I I I see you, yes, most
times you watch Food Network and
you read uh culinary books and
all of that.
I I want to believe that's part
of your research.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: So what's your
specialty?
SPEAKER_03: Hmm.
That question came to me
yesterday, and it was really
difficult.
It was really difficult to
answer because as a chef, you're
trained, you you are trained to
be an all-rounder.
You're not just it is you that
decides what area, what niche
you want to create for yourself.
But as a chef, you're you're
you're you're trained to make
pastries, you're trained to make
um cakes, you're trained to make
food, or Nigerian meals.
I was trained to make Nigerian
meals, um, international meals,
you know, different cuisines.
So it's really difficult for me
to say, okay, this is my
specialty.
I am a chef and I can cook, I
can bake, I can do all sorts in
the kitchen.
So for now, I can't really say
that this is what I am called to
do.
SPEAKER_01: All right.
Yeah.
Now let us talk about the
business aspect of what you do.
Because I know you my wife is
one person that negotiates, she
has the power to negotiate even
in a hostile situation.
She can negotiate her way
through.
So, what's the business aspect
of what you do?
SPEAKER_03: Well, I love to
cook, and when I get paid
cooking for people, I don't feel
like I'm doing a lot of work.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: So, talking about
negotiation, I think it's a
gift.
I won't say I was taught how to
negotiate.
I think it comes naturally.
I try to get the best value at
the lowest price possible.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: Now, I think we'll
allow you to focus now, guys.
Let's let's pay attention to
what she's doing, her prepping,
and all of that.
And uh when she gets to the next
phase of the process, I think
we'll start.
We'll start with another round
of questioning.
But let me go closer so that I
will also see.
You never can tell.
I may find myself in a place
where I'll need to do maybe some
of the nkwabi and what have you.
SPEAKER_03: Really?
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
So basically, why why I brought
her on the set today is just to
share with you, yes, also to
encourage you, inspire you
there.
Uh embracing who you are, your
craft, that thing that tugs you
on the inside in a good way, you
know.
And uh, I've seen her grow.
Yes, I have seen her grow in
this craft, preparing meals,
attending to people, and I
failed to share it with you to
inspire you and to also
encourage you.
You may feel like nobody sees
me, you understand that nobody,
nobody cares, nobody and all of
that.
No, no, if you keep at it,
somebody said something to me
the other day.
I love the consistency of your
consistency, you know.
And I laughed.
So, you know, when you're
consistent about something, it
builds character, it builds
discipline, and uh yes, I will
always say it.
The scripture tells me clearly
see, yes, that we man who is
diligent in his business, he
will stand before kings.
So that is the aspect.
You standing before kings simply
means there is a reward coming
to you for what you do.
The king is seeking your advice,
the king is asking, you know,
for your uh what I say, uh
you're being consulted.
That's the right word to use.
So that's why I brought her on
set today.
And uh, well, I know you're
enjoying it.
Cooking can be fun, like she
said, when you love doing it,
you know, and uh okay.
Where are we now?
SPEAKER_03: I have something for
you to do for me.
SPEAKER_01: All right, yeah,
okay.
Let me they're putting me to
work now.
SPEAKER_03: Yes, this way,
please.
All right, so you're going to
first of all let's clear this
place.
SPEAKER_01: You want me to cut
the bulb?
Is it a bell pepper or ball
pepper?
What do you call it?
Bell.
SPEAKER_03: It's bell, it's not
ball, it's not tatachi.
No, this is not tatachi, it's
not shrumbo, guys.
SPEAKER_01: Don't mind me.
These are the slang we use uh
yes in Nigeria for stuff like
this.
SPEAKER_03: So you're going to
cut this open and take out the
seeds for me.
SPEAKER_01: How do you want me?
Anyhow, just cut it open, okay?
Yes, into two.
Then I take out why why are we
taking out the seed?
We don't need the seeds.
Will it affect if we use it?
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
SPEAKER_01: How it will increase
the heat, the heat.
Okay, I just take off the head
too, I guess.
All right, guys.
This is cooking class 101 for
all those men who are watching,
guys.
SPEAKER_03: Lenno, learn to be
used by your wife.
SPEAKER_01: Yes, so I didn't
tell you.
Okay, that is that.
So that's I do the same for
this, yes, and this.
You know, I've often asked
myself, you know, food and uh
color, what is the relationship?
Food and color.
Is there a relationship?
SPEAKER_03: Yes, there is.
SPEAKER_01: Can you tell us
about it?
SPEAKER_03: So um we eat it, we
eat with our eyes first.
SPEAKER_01: We eat with our eyes
first, yeah.
SPEAKER_03: All right, so when a
meal is presented, first of all,
it has to look appealing to the
eyes, even if it tastes very
good, if it doesn't look good,
it's a ton of.
Okay, so we're intentional.
So imagine that I used all green
bell peppers or all yellow bell
peppers, I won't get the color
combination, okay, and it won't
look as appealing as it will
look if I used yeah.
SPEAKER_01: So we need all the
colors on our plate, yeah, and
again, if you look at it
closely, the colors speak to a
certain level of nutrients, you
know, potassium, zinc, rinse it
off for me, okay.
Zinc, uh calcium, uh, what else?
You know, iron, you know, red
speaks to iron, ferrous.
Do we need to take this off?
SPEAKER_03: Yes, we do.
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I think we can
take this.
SPEAKER_03: We just washed and
put it back to this.
SPEAKER_01: Alright, guys, I'm
in the kitchen.
SPEAKER_03: But I have a
question for you.
SPEAKER_01: Tell me.
SPEAKER_03: You used to cook.
What happened to you?
SPEAKER_01: Good question.
I didn't stop cooking.
SPEAKER_03: So, what happened?
SPEAKER_01: So, my wife just
asked a question.
I'll give us a little background
to it.
Yeah, I am I'm from a family of
seven, no, eight boys.
Yeah, you heard me right, eight
boys.
So, full of enough, is it a
testero they call it now?
And fifth to be precise, as when
you look at the number.
So, my mom invested so much.
I used to go to the market with
my mom.
For those of you who grew up in
Port Hacker or growing up there,
my three market, my one market,
you know.
I used to go to the market with
her, follow her, carry her bag,
you know, see how she does, and
I go into the kitchen with her
also to cook and all of that.
But you know the way life
happens.
So getting married, uh the cares
of life, the demand of fathering
and all of that, somehow.
But you know what?
Somehow, I still cook when I'm
out of the house, like maybe go
on a job, you know, change
location, something like that.
I I still do that because of
that.
But when I come home, say I'm
I'm sorry, I have to apologize.
I become somewhat lazy, and
again, I enjoy my wife's food.
Honestly, I do.
There's this thing it does to
me.
SPEAKER_03: Please tell me what
does it do to you?
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, when I
eat her food, like I said, you
know, what we're doing is when
food meets with word, I just
begin to have this amazing
thoughts with words.
I play with it.
You know, my palate comes alive,
not the palate in my tongue, now
the palate in my mind.
I begin to see the combination
of, you know, should I say words
coming together, fusing, and
there's this reaction that takes
place.
You know, one reaction leads to
the other, leads to the other,
leads to the other.
And she will testify.
Sometimes I just sit down after
eating her food, I begin to
write, you know, and I read out
to her what I've written.
And she will like, is it the
food you just ate now?
You know, so it gives it it
brings this connection with my
wife, you know.
That's the truth.
So part of it, but forgive me, a
bit lazy sometimes.
So that's why.
But I still have that in.
SPEAKER_03: Do you?
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I do.
At least I can boil water.
SPEAKER_03: But can you make
tea?
I can't okay.
SPEAKER_01: She just said
something again.
SPEAKER_03: Can you make your
coffee?
You can boil water.
SPEAKER_01: Can you make it
largely?
Largely.
I guys, this is confession of
the wordsmith.
My wife prepares my coffee
better than I prepare it for
myself.
Yes.
So sometimes when I'm alone, I
was like, ah, she's not here.
I prepare my coffee anyway.
I'm not talking about expression
now, like the regular nest cafe
that you prepare, you brew in a
cup and all of that.
She does it in such a way that
the smell, you know, the way the
Italians will say fantastica,
you know, and uh, so sorry,
forgive me.
It's a confession of a
wordsmith.
SPEAKER_03: Tell them.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so where are
we now?
SPEAKER_03: Okay, we're almost
done prepping.
SPEAKER_01: All right.
SPEAKER_03: So we'll just start.
Um, this won't take long, okay.
Max 10 minutes, and we're done.
SPEAKER_01: So, do you think do
you think cooking is a life
skill that should be embraced by
all?
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yes, I feel so.
It is important, first of all,
eating out is very expensive,
all right.
So, but it is important that we
learn how to cook, especially
our kids.
You know, we just concluded uh
um cook like a chef, cooking
class for let me help you with
that okay, this way, yeah.
I know you just concluded you
were talking about your cooking
class for yes, we just finished,
and the reviews have been
pouring in, okay, and I'm so
happy cook and drop this year,
yes.
Please, the reviews I've been
getting, having kids who
couldn't um find their way
around the kitchen, yeah.
Now be cooking, you know.
SPEAKER_01: It's so at this
point, the magic is about to
happen.
Yeah, the alchemy of cooking.
Let us listen to the alchemist,
the one and only Cheftina.
SPEAKER_03: So we're going to
let our pot trip.
SPEAKER_01: Chef T, I beg your
pardon.
She likes it that way.
SPEAKER_03: It's fine, it's
fine.
So we have our carrots, uh
chopped chicken breasts,
seasoning powder, onion, salt,
turmeric, and then our bell
peppers.
That's all you need.
Our rice is over here.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: Um, this meal is
quite straightforward.
Okay.
And once our pot dries out, so
just stay fried vegetables, pour
in the rice, season, and we're
good to go.
Yeah.
So you see, when you prep, you
can cook in less than 10
minutes.
SPEAKER_01: So part of part of
the magic is prepping.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
It makes your work easy.
You clean as you go, you prep,
and then you just so do you
think in helping uh
relationships, cooking is a
secret to it, or cooking should
be one of the recipes?
It depends.
I wouldn't want to impose as
much as I feel like cooking is a
life skill, I wouldn't want to
impose it on anyone because we
have our strengths and our
weaknesses.
So if I say that cooking helps
to build relationships, and I
have a spouse that doesn't like
cooking, you know, there's going
to be friction there.
So we just stick to what's um
works for them.
SPEAKER_01: So we're putting in
the chopped onion, I guess.
So if you see me crying, you
know why.
SPEAKER_03: Oh, don't worry.
This onion will make you cry.
SPEAKER_00: Onion that doesn't
make you cry.
Are you that's a serious one?
It will make you cry that is
like a problem in life that
doesn't make you cry.
SPEAKER_03: Onion is not a
problem.
No, okay.
I'll add some more.
So I like to fry my onion for
some time, okay, because um it
brings out this sweetness.
Onion is actually sweet, but
people don't know.
Some people say, Oh, I don't
like onion, it makes my mouth
smell.
But there's a level you fry your
onion to, you don't get that
smell, yeah, and it becomes
really, really sweet.
When it's when the purple color
is out, and you see that the
onion is there's a science to it
now, as you're saying it.
SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's like when
you apply heat.
To something to a certain
degree, yeah.
The atomic process that happens
releases sweetness.
SPEAKER_03: Yes, it does.
SPEAKER_01: Guys, you see, I
told you when I when I eat this
food, this is how it happens.
Words just begin to come.
I my imagination flies.
So you see.
So if you never knew this, know
it now.
You you heat your onion to a
certain temperature.
Yeah, it becomes sweet.
That's a secret, anyway.
Famo guys, we're learning.
unknown: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: So after that, what
goes in?
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to put in
my carrots.
Carrots is hard.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: I won't put the bell
peppers because they will die.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_03: They will die fast.
SPEAKER_01: Carrot contains
carotene or carotina.
SPEAKER_03: Carrot chef tea.
SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00: So it helps with
your vision, your sight.
And like she said, she puts it
because it's hard.
SPEAKER_01: So it needs to cook
for a certain time before.
That sound is a good sound.
The hissing sound.
SPEAKER_03: So I'm going to add
my chicken.
SPEAKER_00: All right.
Protein goes in.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: Protein goes in.
SPEAKER_03: It is looking so the
chicken is already cooked, so
all right.
It doesn't have to now add some
of my seasoning.
SPEAKER_01: What seasoning is
that?
SPEAKER_03: It's my secret
ingredient.
SPEAKER_01: Alright.
That's her secret ingredient.
SPEAKER_00: Like the more the
lady said, I see my mom always
clap her hand over the pot.
And I thought that was the
secret.
The magic that makes daddy
enjoys the food.
So she did the same.
I went to serve her husband.
Almost sent her packing.
I didn't say that.
Okay, she added a little oil.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: I guess to reduce
friction in the pot.
SPEAKER_03: So the next thing
I'm going to do is add half of
my bell pepper.
SPEAKER_01: Did you hear that?
SPEAKER_03: Not everything.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
I want to believe you're doing
this because at the end of the
day, you're going to put the
remaining one to remain fresh,
yeah, and crunchy.
SPEAKER_03: Now see how
beautiful this is.
SPEAKER_01: I can I can imagine.
You say beauty is in the eye of
the beholder, but this one is
when you eat the food, you're
not just beholding, you're
filled up.
SPEAKER_03: You see the color
combination.
SPEAKER_00: Beautiful.
This is like the rainbow in our
pot.
SPEAKER_01: Guys, I'm enjoying
this.
I know you are also.
Go ahead.
What are we adding now?
Salt.
A pinch of it.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: Then I'll stir and
pull in my rice.
Can you help me with the rice,
please?
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
We'll pour it gradually, I
guess.
So this is the carbohydrate.
So we have protein.
We have the jeans, and now the
carbohydrate is coming in.
What a fantastic combination.
The combination of all of this
is just for one thing.
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
SPEAKER_01: Energy to be
released, guys.
I'm not the Sue chef, I'm just
she's on my show.
Oh, am I learning?
SPEAKER_03: You are
apprenticeship.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01: Oh my.
But if I call myself Chef
Watsmith, Ronald.
SPEAKER_03: If you say that,
then I'm going to leave the
cooking for you.
Okay.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: So I'll just add you
can keep this here.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01: All right.
SPEAKER_03: For a bit of colour.
SPEAKER_01: All right.
SPEAKER_03: Just some color.
You know.
SPEAKER_01: That looks like
curry uh flavor, no, it's not.
SPEAKER_03: It's an ingredient
in the curry.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: So this is what
gives the uh what I call it sun
color of fried rice or stir fry.
Wow.
She has increased the heat a
little.
All right.
No, it's fried rice, so it's
supposed to be frying.
Yeah.
So allow it to heat up.
SPEAKER_03: Are you noticing the
color?
SPEAKER_01: I am.
It's it's changing gradually.
SPEAKER_03: So when cooking, you
put a little to check if you
need more, you add.
All right.
Because it's easy to add more,
but it's almost impossible to
take out.
SPEAKER_01: That's true.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: It's called common
sense.
But it's not common.
All right.
SPEAKER_03: That should be
enough.
We don't want the MTN yellow.
SPEAKER_01: Uh, we are not
advertising for MTN.
Even though MTN can come and
sponsor this, you know, to help,
you know, the growing chefs when
food meets word with chef tea.
I'm creating the future.
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so this is
what we have.
So I'm going to add some more
seasoning.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: Why am I adding more
seasoning?
What makes me feel like we need
more seasoning?
SPEAKER_01: Would I say the
process is coming to an end?
So we need to garnish it.
SPEAKER_03: No, seasoning is not
garnishing.
So because I've done this for a
while, I have an idea of what I
need or what the food needs.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: But the ideal thing
to do is to taste as you go,
which you're going to do for me
now.
SPEAKER_01: That's good.
SPEAKER_03: Bring in the taster.
SPEAKER_01: The taster is here
already.
SPEAKER_03: So our rice is
looking good.
Wow.
We've not added the last batch
of vegetables.
We're going to do that.
Just as we finish the cooking.
SPEAKER_01: Even the Chinese
cannot cook like this.
Sorry, I didn't mean that.
I meant.
I didn't mean that.
Guys, watch.
SPEAKER_03: Tell me what you
think.
SPEAKER_01: You can feel this.
SPEAKER_03: Tell me what you
think.
SPEAKER_01: It's just romantic.
You feel so dramatic.
Oh my goodness.
It's beautiful.
Is it beautiful?
Yes, it's amazing.
It's feeling it's sweet.
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
SPEAKER_01: Every sense of the
word.
SPEAKER_03: So I just added my
last batch of vegetables.
SPEAKER_01: Can I can I taste it
again?
SPEAKER_03: Just don't worry.
If you can't give me a good
review, how will you say my food
is beautiful?
SPEAKER_01: Your food is
amazing, it's fantastic.
What word again should I use?
It's fried rastic.
Ah my, how did you know that?
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so our rice is
ready.
SPEAKER_01: On the scale of
words, we'll find it difficult
to place it.
SPEAKER_03: So we're going to
dish some.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
Let me use this.
Okay.
Wait.
I think I need a spoon.
Where is that spoon?
SPEAKER_03: See your spoon over
here.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
Guys, we've been with Chef T
going through her process.
And always, you know, when you
start a process, there must be
uh there must be that finality.
So there must be that finality,
and uh the finality will tell
you if you should go through
that process again and again,
you know, and that's what we
want to do.
SPEAKER_03: Gold for you, silver
for me.
SPEAKER_01: What do you say?
Lunch is served, or food already
you can't chop wow.
Okay, let us pray for the food.
He's blessed in Jesus' name.
SPEAKER_03: Amen.
SPEAKER_01: Yes, guys.
Yes, that's what we do before we
eat.
SPEAKER_03: Do you think there's
anything we would have adjusted,
maybe in the seasoning or
anything?
It's just right.
Alright.
SPEAKER_01: It's just right.
I'm not saying it's just right
because to make you feel good,
it is just right.
SPEAKER_03: I'm proud of the
meals I make.
SPEAKER_01: Oh my.
SPEAKER_03: So you don't need to
patronize me.
SPEAKER_01: You can say that
again.
I know sometimes when I go out
and I order for food and they
see the expression on my face.
My friends who know that my wife
is a chef, they'll tell me, can
you for once just forget that
your wife is a chef and just eat
this food?
I say, my dear, I know fit.
SPEAKER_03: What do you notice
about the vegetables?
SPEAKER_01: They are crunchy.
Yeah, they are alive, they are
not dead.
Even though they went through
fire, they were not scorched.
No smoke was left on them.
Oh my don't talk while eating.
SPEAKER_03: While eating.
This is heavenly.
It's okay.
SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
Oh yeah, my God, I'll tell you
about that.
SPEAKER_03: Welcome back.
Feet on the ground.
SPEAKER_01: Oh, feet on the
ground.
So, guys, this is what we came
to do on the show today.
Sincerely, when food meets word,
I decided to bring my wife on
set to share her process.
And uh you'll agree with me,
it's been an amazing time.
You've learned one or two
things, but you can reach out to
her.
Yeah, you can reach out to her.
She has this process that
simplifies preparing meals.
She doesn't just cook.
No, she doesn't.
She creates, she curates a taste
that meets your taste.
That's what she does.
Right, guys?
Oh, how do you find her?
Please tell them.
SPEAKER_03: On social media,
Instagram at Sobek Foods,
Twitter, Chef T, um TikTok, Chef
T.
Um, where else?
SPEAKER_01: Snapchat, do you?
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, no, no,
Snapchat.
We all run away from Snapchat.
SPEAKER_01: America Sorrio.
unknown: You know.
SPEAKER_01: So that said, that's
how to reach her.
And she's a phone calling, lady.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: Well, I wish I could
continue this, you know, like
that.
But you know how we do it on the
show?
We always come with amazing
content to inspire you, to
provoke you in the right
direction.
Well, we are available, you know
it, on all the social media
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Yes, we have a YouTube channel.
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Hit that notification button
because we always have amazing
content for you.
Yeah.
I guess you're waiting for that.
Till I come your way again.
My name is Amakri.
SPEAKER_03: Let me go with my
face.
Please do.
SPEAKER_01: Awesome time it has
been with you on the World Cafe
Podcast today.
Thank you for being there.
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