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SPEAKER_00: Hello there.
Welcome to the World Cafe
Podcast.
This podcast has been designed
with created content that
centers on the power of words.
Can we really do anything
without speaking?
Can we really do anything
without the agency of words?
Yes, that is what this podcast
is all about.
And I am your host, Amakri Iswe,
your neighborhood word trader.
I believe in the power of words,
for it is the unit of creation.
I trade in words to profit my
world.
Good morning.
Good afternoon.
Good evening.
Good everything.
Wherever you are, yes, this very
instant.
On the surface of the earth,
listening to me.
Good, good, good, good, good.
Always exciting coming in here.
Yeah, always, sincerely, always.
Gives me this comfort.
What do we do here?
We provoke, we talk, we share,
we encourage.
That's what we do on the show.
And it's all about words.
So I sat for a while ruminating,
going through you know different
episodes on the show, what we
have done by God's grace, seeing
what we have shared over time.
It's amazing, sincerely
speaking.
Sometimes I say that and I
listen to myself, I go through
my show notes.
You know, it's like, wow, wow,
it's amazing.
The body of work, the knowledge
we are contributing, you know,
to the overall collective of
knowledge.
It's amazing, and it's, I mean,
it gives me this joy knowing
that you're part of it, you're
listening, you're following,
you're sharing, you know.
So, what are we going to be
talking about today on the show?
I guess that's what you're
wondering because that's what we
do each time we come here.
You know, I want to talk about
the turn of the century.
2050 would see us entering
another century.
Some of us maybe will be
grandparents by then.
Some of us maybe will be
married, have children.
Some of us may be at that point
happy that we have seen what we
built grow, become something.
Why some of us may be regretting
for not making any decision, for
not taking investing in
something.
Now, when you look at the
beautiful thing about time,
recorded history, that is, you
can pinpoint uh what I call it
inflection points where things
happen.
There's this change, there is
this what I call it leap, there
is this curve, 1900, 1800, 1700.
If you go back from and it's
always person-driven, like you
look at the life of Martin
Luther, not Martin Luther King
Jr.
now, the Lutheran, the
Protestant.
That was close to 500 years ago
when he started, you know,
challenging the status quo of
that time, how it influenced
practically everything:
governance, structures, and you
know, name it.
Changed everything.
Now we we we're living in the
creation of the past.
If you understand what I mean by
that, those who came before us
thinks they did great names, the
Newtons, the Edison's, the
Teslas, not Elon Musk, Nikola
Tesla.
Yes, you know, Western
Churchill, and what have you?
Those are foreign names.
When you come to Africa, you
hear names like Nafemandela, you
hear names like Kaziqiwe, you
hear names like Amadou Belo,
Tafabelewa, Awala War, you know,
and bringing it home.
Then what's going to happen in
2050?
Politically speaking,
technologically speaking,
socially, economically, a lot
happening.
But there's one thing that is
now what I call it a
denominator, a factor that is
somewhat controlling the
narrative.
And some of us have more or less
ceded our humanity to it, and it
feels like, oh, without this,
this will not work, and all of
that.
AI, artificial intelligence, as
we call it.
Practically, if you go out there
now, you have everything is AI,
if you ask the ubiquity of is
now ubiquitous, so to say, as in
AIDS, AI that AIDS, AI that.
So don't be fooled.
Like I was discussing, I know
we've talked about this on the
show before.
What powers AI?
The material world powers AI.
Yeah, the digital age is a
function of the material world.
There is no digital age without
the material world.
And somehow those who have come
to know this are now harnessing
boot ends.
Yep, supercomputers, uh,
microchips, and all that, they
run on rare earth metals.
So countries and places that are
heavily endowed with rare earth
metals are becoming endangered,
so to say, and you have vested
interest now playing out and all
of that.
So all of this is building up to
the turn of the century.
So let me piggyback a little.
When you look at the first and
second world wars, for those of
us who are students of history,
took place at the turn of the
century.
As in I think that's 20th or 20,
no, 20th century, 1900.
The first world war happened in
1917, the second happened in
1937, I think, 38.
They all both happened back to
back as a result of the
Austria-Hungarian issue.
Okay.
Yes, I'm a student of history.
So there's something I know, and
I heard recently, and it tripped
me that for you to know and
understand the mystery of
wealth, you must appreciate and
understand the history of
wealth.
So if you want to understand
anything that appears
mysterious, look for its
history.
You will understand it better.
It's not father, the codes are
not different, it is just either
a quantum leap or uh what do you
call it, astronomical, that is
still the same.
Like it's a factor of factor of.
So you see it happen.
And all of this was as a result
of path, or rather, what really
made these things take shape and
take form, the industrial age,
metals, discovering of metals,
how we can harness the potential
of atoms to change the way we
see things and all of that.
So now the turn of the century,
which will happen in 2050, is
like the speed at which we are
harnessing.
Amazing, amazing, but there's
something that always beats me.
It's like Africa is playing
catch up in all of this.
And we now like, okay, ah, is
that how to do it?
And we now jump on the banged
wagon.
And I think it's it's time we
all to look at it from our
perspective.
The made in Africa technology,
the made in Africa materials,
culture, fashion, design.
Yeah, made in Africa.
So when you think that Africa,
as they call it, the dark
continent, like there's no
light, let me tell you
something.
The technology in Africa is
unparalleled.
Now pick up Chino Achibes,
things fall apart.
I I challenge you, pick that
book up and read it.
It was written here in Africa by
an African mind expressed by an
African tongue.
That's to tell you how powerful
the African mind is and can be.
But because we have not really
placed ourselves there, we're
playing catch up.
So, what would Africa look like
in by 2050?
You see, each of the world
powers negotiating, you know,
and all of that.
Money, as we know it, is
changing if it has not changed
completely.
Where we now have digital
currencies, crypto is coming up.
You see, somebody, the fiat
currency is so downplayed.
Now, the other day I picked up
my wallet and realized the
wallet doesn't carry more than
if I mean 10,000 naira, or let
me put it in clear terms, a
hundred dollars.
Because practically everything
we do now is we transfer, you
know, digital currency, you
know, you just move money like
that, you pay for things.
Yes, you know, suya now, the
street food in Nigeria, they
they have a POS machine now.
They even they even encourage
you, we don't take cash.
So that's how currency, what we
know as money, has moved up to.
So our value system is beginning
to change.
So those who are invested in
digital activities are becoming
the next thing.
Yeah, you see a lot of
applications, apps being
developed.
So those who harness the
knowledge of the digital or
cyberspace are edging out, they
are amassing so much wealth.
I'm only giving you what 2050
would look like.
It's the turn of the century.
Somebody say, Ah, well, we need
to fight it.
You you know, you don't fight
time, you can't stop time.
You cannot, it will happen, it
will come.
But what do you do?
Like the eagle that takes
advantage of the stump and
rides, or rather, soars.
That is what we should do.
You sense the current of the
wind, the strength of the wind.
You you you practice flight,
strengthen your wings, and you
fly.
Now, those who will be born in
the next say five, ten years,
they are not going to be gen
alpha.
You will be called or gen
cipher, maybe, who calls
everything flying now, and those
who were born who are digital
natives will challenge the
status quo of how learning
should be.
So now we have things like
machine learning, which we call
like you find it in uh chat GBT,
Gemini, and all those uh online
applications.
So you begin to see things like
the democratization of knowledge
becoming so granular, very
granular.
So the other day I went online
to do something and I realized
that averagely we're spending in
a year, averagely, one
individual is spending close to
$250 on applications, apps.
Like they will tell you to use
the free one use when you know
when you taste it, it becomes so
sweet, and you want to like
they'll now tell you to pay for
preperium, the book pro.
So by the time you do the
calculation, you're spending
close to$250 for an app.
So that's just you.
So multiply it across one
million people.
So the developers of those apps
are becoming even richer than
oil and gas, or even the iron
and tech, if you understand what
I mean by that.
Because the tech, the iron, the
oil and gas would need those
applications to do their jobs.
So support functions are
becoming, should I say, more
valuable than the core
functions, if you understand
what I mean by that.
So those who are invested in
that are growing.
So the next set of people that
will come on the scene,
children, human beings, they
will be so digitally, digitally
colonized, they will call them
digital, we'll maybe call it
digital colonization, that they
will only respond to digital
products and functions, that
even departmental stores, local
markets, um buying and selling
in that sense decentralizes.
So the trust element of this app
will begin to appreciate.
Why?
Because you need value.
So that age, that time will see
a lot of this, and again, you
know what?
There will be this what I call
it other side to it, the analog
renaissance.
What do I mean by that?
The old school renaissance.
You come to see the market for
nostalgia growing, where people
would want to see books that
they can hold and smell to
appreciate reading, not just the
digital format.
So you have a market for it.
You now have, you know, like in
the US of that time where you
have to have when they used to
have jute boxes where you go,
you know, they have the record
player, a jute box, you slot in
a coin, then you pick your song
and you play to it.
Such things will begin to come
up.
You find out you now see joints
where you begin to build such
things for them, machines for
them.
It's like, where are you going?
I'm going to listen to old
school jams.
Then you see clothing styles
2050.
You need to see things like
that.
You know, why am I talking about
it?
I think it's because we need to
prepare ourselves.
A wise man said, He who has no
plan, or he who fails to plan
has planned already to fail.
So you see, you leave from the
future.
No, you leave from the future,
you anticipate it, you plan for
it, you build for it, you
prepare for it, because that's
what is coming.
There will be this fight, you
know, fight, fight for the
truth, fight for value.
So you now begin to see that
truth is cash, value is now
premium, is now gold, and people
who really yearn for it will pay
premium for it.
It doesn't sound like a dystopia
future.
If you're like, I'm scaring you,
no, I'm not scaring you.
I'm only telling you the truth,
what will be.
So it's for us to like wake up,
put ourselves together, and plan
for it.
You get plan for it.
Yeah, the turn of the century.
That's what I came to do on the
show today.
And uh, I know I've struck a
chord in you, but you don't have
to be scared, it's our time.
Yes, this is our place, this is
our moment, it's for us to seize
it and make the best of it.
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My name is Amakri.
Amakri Isoboye.
Bye for now.
Awesome time it has been with
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