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Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to the
Word Cafe podcast.
This podcast has been designed
with curated content that
centers on the power of words.
Can we really do anything
without speaking?
Can we really do anything
without the agency of words?
Yes, that is what this podcast
is all about, and I am your host
, amakri Isoway, your
neighborhood word trader.
I believe in the power of words
, for it is the unit of creation
.
I trade in words to profit my
world.
He is Amakri, given the decree
by God Almighty, the maker of
the tree, to get many to agree
even if they disagree, to get
many to see what they really
could be with the work to
believe.
Never created to deceive, he is
Amakri, created to deceive.
He is a mockery.
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Hi, how you doing good to be
here with you.
This is your neighborhood war
trader, a mockakri Isobe.
Ah, we're here again.
Here again to like Share, and
today I want to.
I want to do something.
Yes, I hope you like it.
I know you're going to like it.
I'm going to take you to my
geography class in primary
school, one of the best subjects
, one of my most favorite
subjects in primary school
geography, elementary geography
when we talked about the map of
Nigeria, the places, historical
sites, yeah, so intriguing.
You know, when you sit there
listening to the teachers like
you're transported.
But one story that never quite
sat well with me was the story
of the discovery of the Niger.
There are two significant
rivers in Nigeria that you
cannot but take notice of, and
if you look at the map of the
country, the way the rivers flow
, they divide the country or the
landscape into three similarly
equal parts the River Niger and
the River Benue.
And we are always fascinated
each time we talk about these
rivers and somehow, growing up,
I have come to like crisscross
these rivers.
A little bit tall, and we'll
get back to the story again.
My granddad was a fisherman who
did a lot of fishing expedition
along the River Niger, along
the river Niger.
Yes, when you look at the way
that River Niger flows, it flows
to the eastern part of the
country, cutting across the
states between east and south,
while Benue is to the other part
, more like to the northern part
of the country.
So he's told us so many stories
and growing up, becoming a man
traveling the country, I have
come to also see these rivers
for myself.
I remember once I was going to
Obudu, the Obudu cattle ranch in
mean, on vacation with my
family and some friends, we went
through from Abuja, driving
throughassarawa and all that.
You have to go through Benway,
that's McCordy, and I got to see
River Benway for myself.
Amazing sight.
Along the riverbank you see a
lot of activities, economic
activities going on and you see
this orange orchard like endless
long line stretching along the
Benue River.
Oranges everywhere.
Same for the Niger.
If you go into what we call the
Orashi, the Orashi River, the
Oguta Lake access and all that,
you get to see the Niger for
yourself.
So back then in school, back to
our story.
Now, when we're being told about
the Niger that it was
discovered by Mongo Park, it
didn't really sit well with me
because I came to like, growing
up, you know, yes, okay, you
have to pass your exams and they
ask you that question who
discovered the River Niger?
And you say it's Mungo Park.
But come to think of it, I
asked myself, leaving that class
and growing up, secondary
school, university, how would
you discover something that has
been there, known by the, would
I say, aborigines, the people,
the settlers there who are
interacting with the River Niger
even before Mungu Park came?
So how would you say that
mongopak discovered the niger.
It's really troubling, I must
say.
You know what would you do as a
growing up child.
You need to pass your exams,
you need to like appear to know,
as in you're, you're in tune,
you know what is happening.
So, so who is Mungo Pak?
I got to like make some
research to know who this Mungo
Pak.
Who is he?
Mungo Pak, born on the 11th of
September 1771 and he passed
1806.
He was a Scottish explorer of
West Africa.
After an exploration of the
upper Niger River around 1796,
he wrote a popular and
influential travel book titled
Travels in the Interior District
of Africa, in which he
theorized that Niger and Congo,
as those two rivers rivers,
merged to become the same river.
He was killed during a second
expedition, having successfully
traveled about two-thirds of the
way down.
The Niger Park's death meant
the idea of a Niger-Congo river
merger remained unproven, but it
became the leading theory among
geographers of that time.
The mystery of the Niger scores,
which had been speculated about
since the ancient Greeks Did
you hear that Since the ancient
Greeks I was second only to the
mystery of the Nile sauce was
not solved for almost 25 years?
In 1830, when it was discovered
, the Niger and Congo were in
fact, separate rivers.
Yes, that's the bit of Mungo
Pak and the story around him.
So I kept asking that question
how would you say Mungo Pak
discovered the Niger when the
Niger had always been there,
with the indigents, the
aborigines who live around there
, traveling along the river,
doing business, carrying out
commercial activities, trade and
what have you?
Or is it because he put down
some coordinates?
It now became his property.
Really, the project carried out
by some young, brilliant
Nigerian writers and authors
Onyeka Mwelewe, adike Naoke.
They came about this project
Saving Mongupak, and the idea
was are you sure he was the one
that discovered the Niger?
Now, the maverick author,
producer and filmmaker Onyeka
Mwele and prolific poet and
writer Ikenna Chinidu Oke that's
, I mean, these two teamed up to
write.
You know.
They came about a children's
book titled Saving Mongupak.
Now, the idea of the book here
is brilliant, I must say,
because it's like I just
discovered two guys who were
thinking more or less same
thought with me.
The book, which subverts the
colonial idea that mongopak
discovered river niger, stares
up questions in the minds of the
young by teasing possibilities
that it was africans who
retrieved mongopak from a weaver
that displaced him.
The children's book is
published by Hattus, that's, I
know, the publishing house
Hattus Books.
Yeah, you can go check for that
book and, honestly, the thought
they have presented here most
likely is the truth.
Mungo Pak yes, here most likely
is the truth.
Mongopak yes, mongopak was
retrieved.
He worked, maybe in cause of
his expedition and all that.
They saved him because they
know the river better than
himself the current, the tide,
the flow and everything.
So they saved him.
Ah, you would say he took down
the coordinates.
No, I don't think so.
They showed him the coordinates
.
They may not have the language
in terms of writing and all that
.
They knew the river so well.
He would say why do you say
that?
Honestly, it's in our DNA, yes,
communicated through the ages
onto us.
He did not discover, in my
opinion, he did not discover.
In my opinion, he did not
discover no, he didn't discover
the river Niger.
Our parents lived, our parents
survived, our parents did so
much along the Niger River.
So they actually own.
You know, there's something
about someone telling your story
.
He can't.
He or she cannot tell the story
like you.
That's the essence of sharing
this with you today.
You have a story, we all have a
story, but no one can tell the
story like you.
Why?
Because it is your story.
If I tell your story, I may not
deliver it.
Express it the way you would do
it, because you see it through
the lens of your experiences,
the lens of your experiences.
You need to own it, you need to
become it, not someone telling
your story, and that has been
our problem.
Mungu Park did not discover
River Niger.
Your dad and my dad and our
parents discovered the Niger.
So don't let anyone tell your
story.
You tell your story.
You express yourself.
You own your story.
Why?
Because it is your story.
Why, because it is your story.
So when next they tell you
about you, let them know who you
are.
I am not what you say I am.
This is who I am.
I am not what you say I am.
This is who I am.
This is who I am.
Don't let anyone discover you
for you.
You discover you and tell your
story.
It is your story.
Hmm, he did not discover the
Niger.
It flows in us all.
Right, gotta go now.
Don't worry, I know it's like a
eureka moment for you, a light
bulb moment for you.
This is what we do at the World
Cafe.
I gotta for now.
Art for Time.
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World Cafe podcast today.
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Yes till we see again.
Bye for now.