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Speaker 1: Hello there, welcome
to the World Cafe podcast.
This podcast has been designed
with created content that
centers on the power of words.
Can we really do anything
without speaking?
Can we really do anything
without the agency of words?
Yes, that is what this podcast
is all about, and I am your host
, amakri Isubie, your
neighborhood word trader.
I believe in the power of words
, for it is the unit of creation
.
I trade in words to profit my
world.
We are men, the man, his mission
and the money.
A message that is not
economically viable will breed
poverty.
A message that is not
economically viable what do you
mean by economic?
If viable, my brother?
If there's no money in your
pocket, there's big wahala, but
the worst wahala is if you don't
understand why money should be
in your pocket.
So I was just brainstorming and
this hit me.
And when you started talking
about the business in church,
god actually gave me that
concept.
I wrote it down Something like
Dragon's Den or Lion's Den.
We need to fund businesses in
the church ideas.
Give people grants, seed funds,
with a clause.
You're going to plow back to
this scheme when you make
progress and you're going to
show us in XYZ time your ratings
return on investment,
employability.
How many people have you
employed in the church?
So let them see that we are not
as poor as a church rat.
Create an escrow account, an
escrow form like create a
faculty, get people.
So when you are just like so
actually, god has started this
thing already you come present,
you come into a studio like this
what's your name?
Okay, we heard you're a good
lawyer, but you're into business
.
All right, tell us, why do you
think we should fund you?
Why do you think we should give
you this grant?
Just like what they do in
Dragon's Den.
But this time we're not trying
to make profit in that sense.
Rather, we're trying to raise
kingdom financiers.
That's why terrorism is still
up there, because the people who
sponsor it come under the guise
of religion.
So what do we do?
As men, you must understand
that your place as a man in the
kingdom is very important when
it comes to finances, but if you
don't understand the kingdom,
how would you spend?
So it's a question of why do we
need the money?
We need the money, quite all
right, but why do we need the
money?
Do we really know why we need
the money?
You know, you said something
your target 1 billion.
I'm calling the way the monies
were coming in?
Yes, and you said, before you
got to that place, they were.
They started meeting their
targets.
You made a confession, or you
asked your father for that help,
and your boss immediately
recognized that your coming into
this team changed a lot of
things.
Now let us ask the question what
Joseph did that made him always
stand out?
Some of this is because he had
the favor of God.
Okay, maybe what else?
Joseph was always doing things
differently, added to the grace
of God on his life.
He was a servant in a place.
This is how they serve.
Joseph came and said I think we
can serve excellently.
Well, his master came and said
before you came, these people
used to do like this, but after
you came, there's something
different.
So you're going to be the head
servant.
So Joseph became a standard by
doing things differently.
Potiphar, prison and Pharaoh.
When he told Pharaoh the dream,
he told Pharaoh two things.
He said it's not in me to give
you the answer, but I know
somebody who will give you the
answer.
He will not just give you the
answer, he will give you an
answer of peace.
And Pharaoh now said okay, who
will actually implement these
things you are saying, apart
from you, who has given us the
insight to this?
And see the way Joseph started
answering Pharaoh's questions.
You can see clearly he was
putting into practice kingdom
principles.
Kingdom principles how do I know
?
Tithe is a kingdom principle,
because that was what he
implemented there.
Saving we need to save 20% of
all our harvest.
Now, if we need to save 20% of
all our harvest, it means we
need an infrastructure that can
carry this.
So, engineers, where are you in
the house?
Go and give us structures.
Okay, if we need to save, we
need to come up with methods of
preservation.
Okay, the scientists,
agriculturists in the house.
How do we preserve grains over
a period of time?
Okay, we need to sell them.
Alright.
Commercial activity the
marketers where are you in the
house?
Alright, come up with
principles.
Who was directing all of this?
One man, joseph, but look at
where he was coming from.
Implementing kingdom principles
when did he hear the kingdom
principles from?
He wasn't there.
When Abraham gave a title to
Melchizedek, the prince of Salem
, he wasn't there.
But scripture says he was in
the loins, so it was
fellowshipping with his father's
God.
His father's God now told him
this was the covenant I had with
your grandfather.
So, if you implement it.
Say really, say yes.
So why do I need the resource
and how do I get it?
Because he gives power.
God doesn't give you money.
He gives, gives power.
God doesn't give you money.
He gives you power To make, not
money to make wealth.
So money is just like maybe
first or second card of wealth.
I think that's where a lot of us
miss it.
Like my pastor said once, god
asked him if you have one
billion dollars, what will you
do with it?
He wrote down how many things.
He now went back to look at
what he wrote down free will lot
.
He now said no, I think I need
to keep the one billion in the
cooler and rest for six months
to catch revelation.
Because, in all fairness we are
men.
The first thing that comes to
our mind I mean correct me if
I'm wrong If you have money in
your pocket, you just think of
the new house you're going to
build, you know the next car
you're going to do, you know the
next car you're going to buy
them to pass our family, the
private church, exactly.
You begin to pursue sort of and
it's like God will be shocked
even looking at this my son,
this is my son that I've made
the head of something.
Look at what he's thinking
about.
No, you're not even thinking
about okay, he's not even the
type Okay, kingdom Investment.
How do I get young men like me
off the street from evil vices?
How, how do I preach the gospel
?
Just like what Baris has said a
while ago preach the gospel by
feeding.
As they see you.
They think Christ, that that's
our Messiah.
He brings food here every day
for us.
Rather, you're thinking about
me, myself and I, and that's a
stingy position, and God never
deals with stingy people, never.
Let's piggyback on this
scripture.
When David was anointed there's
a part of that story that a lot
of us just gloss and go.
We don't look at it.
When he said the disgusted,
broken, battered, distressed,
the scripture used all negative
words there.
They came to him, david, to be
their captain.
How, somebody who was running
in the bush, you people just
gathered to him.
No, they didn't gather to him.
Who ordinarily they saw?
This guy has a kingdom mandate
and we've seen how he's been
surviving all this while without
any hand Human hand, I mean.
They went to him.
We all know the end of that
story.
They all became the mighty men
of David.
So, kingdom provision.
How do I get it?
First of all, you must
understand kingdom, kingdom.
You must understand.
If you don't understand kingdom
, god's investment on your life
will be a total waste Kingdom.
So what is the kingdom?
The man was placed to tend the
garden, the garden of Eden.
In the room I was discussing
with my causing my wife, I said
is Eden a location?
Is a geographical location?
You believe so.
You think Eden is a geographic
location.
It means God's presence rests.
God's presence rests in certain
places on the earth.
Somebody, my pastor in Port
Harcourt she said that statement
, pastor Cage, and somewhere now
I was reading, I saw it.
God's center is everywhere, but
his circumference is nowhere.
When you're looking for a
circumference of a circle,
that's to tell you where to
pinpoint it and take your
direction.
His presence is everywhere, but
that's his second.
Friends, you can never find it
why.
Because God can move you.
What you're doing now is across
borders, but one day he will
tell you son, I want you to move
physically to a location that I
, god, will reveal to you.
And when you go there,
ordinarily, everybody who
believes in your God comes to
you.
So not until we understand.
It's a tender garden, tend.
And there's a word again there
take care and keep it.
The man is a caretaker, the
woman is a caregiver.
See, take care.
What am I taking care of?
The garden?
What is the garden?
It's typical of God's kingdom.
He said let's look at it this
way God created the earth After
creating, he created a garden
and put man there.
Now God is the owner of the
earth.
Follow my thought.
He's the owner of the earth.
He created the earth and gave
ownership to the man.
What do you expect to operate
in?
God's creation?
God's principle or man's
principle?
God's principle, so it is a
kingdom mindset.
So it is a kingdom mindset.
So God expects man, who he has
given access or control or
authority over his creation, to
always come back to him for
instructions on how to run the
kingdom.
And that was why the scripture
you read from Matthew, jesus
always talked about the kingdom.
And that was why the scripture
you read from Matthew, jesus
always talked about the kingdom.
He didn't talk about no, jesus
did not talk about a faith.
No, he didn't, no, no, no, he
didn't do that.
He talked about a kingdom or
the kingdom.
So not until we, as men, come to
understand that we are
caretakers, the resources will
not come For a caretaker.
For you to be a caretaker, it
means you have access to what
Resources?
So why do I need money?
Or why do I need the resources?
Imagine, just imagine, if Elon
Musk is a Christian or somebody
who believes in God and he's
sitting on Just for a minute.
Imagine your mind can't
comprehend it that Elon Musk who
bought Twitter for 40 billion
Sorry, 40 billion dollars and 44
.
So he is increasing by the day.
So, and he's a believer, he's
of the faith.
What do you expect?
So will it be comfortable for
me to say that God has not found
us worthy in accessing this
wealth?
It's just a thought.
So for you to profit from the
land, it means you need to have
a level of knowledge that is not
ordinary.
You must understand how to milk
.
There is a technique to milk.
You can't just wake up in the
morning and just walk out there
and you see it.
No, that is why I hate the
language hustle, because a lot
of us don't know the meaning of
hustle.
It's a negative term.
I told you I'm very keen on
words.
I don't just throw words around
.
I don't.
I like the word diligence.
Why, see, is there a man who is
diligent in his business, not
business.
In his business, you can say,
in his entrepreneurial skills or
venture, he will stand before
kings and not men.
Men.
For you to stand before kings,
it means the king sought or the
sorted, if there's any language
like that.
People are asking why did Elon
Musk buy Twitter?
What will he do with Twitter?
Okay, let me paint a picture
for you.
The world has gone.
Digital data is more expensive
than energy.
As we speak today, data
democratization is taking the
whole place, if you know what
that means.
We all have access now to data,
but who knows what to do with
data?
It is called data mining how to
mine?
There is something in data that
you need to mine.
Elon Musk has a satellite, True
or false?
Twitter works on what algorithm
?
Marx has a satellite, true or
false?
Twitter works on what algorithm
?
How do you project Twitter to
the world?
Through what Satellite?
He controls the satellite.
He controls Twitter.
He has all the data to his
disposition.
He mines it at will.
He controls the narrative.
Because he controls the
narrative?
Because he who controls the
narrative controls your destiny.
That's why heaven and earth
will pass away, but God's word
will not, because God in that
space, in that dimension,
controls the narrative.
That's why he bought Twitter
and it's, I mean, that's why?
Imagine you controlling
information.
What you're wearing, now I can
decide it.
I profile you.
Yes, I profile you, thank you.
I profile you.
Yes, I profile you, thank you,
I profile you.
Peter likes wearing glasses,
this kind of shade and all that.
And what do I do?
I begin to bombard Peter with
so many information concerning
this kind of glasses.
The likelihood for Peter to
take one out of 20 is 99.9,
because he sees it every day.
So so, going to church and
hearing the pastor preach and
you sweat, it's not enough.
No, it's not enough.
No, it's not enough.
No, it's not enough.
No, it's not enough.
You just said a word my people
perish for lack of knowledge.
Once I was looking at that word
knowledge.
What's the meaning of knowledge
?
What's the meaning?
I fragmented the word knowledge
Know, l and ledge.
Your knowledge that is dependent
on continuous learning gives
you an edge over everybody, an
edge over everybody.
I said your knowledge that's
word kn?
O, knowledge, no L and edge.
What you know on a continuous
learning basis gives you an edge
over everybody.
So it's not enough for you to
say I know, no, no, it's not
enough.
You must learn, keep learning,
relearn, unlearn continuously.
That is the only way you can
have an edge in any society.
That's why the Spirit of God
always tell you if you have
fellowship with him, you think
what you knew yesterday will
take you through tomorrow.
There are dimensions, there are
levels that when you get into
it and you begin to operate it,
people will say this guy is now
rich, you'll be rich, you'll be
rich.
Yes, you are now in a place
that we don't understand you
anymore.
It's actually, why would you
understand me?
God is taking me into the deep
From one level to the other.
So I have asked myself, just
like baxter said a while ago,
sunday is like a religious thing
.
You just go to church and I ask
if I go to church every day or
every Sunday.
I'm so religious about it.
And somebody goes to a golf
course and plays golf and they
talk intellectually and exchange
ideas and grow wealth.
Excuse me, why should I not go
and play golf?
I'm laid off.
The essence of going to church
is to catch revelation.
It is not enough to catch
revelation.
I call it.
It is enough when you have
revelation.
So what is that?
Standing on a revealed
knowledge, operating from a
revealed knowledge, is a word I
coined anyway revelation.
It's not.
You're not.
You're not working on
revelation anymore.
You are now working on
revelation.
You are on an elevated platform
in that knowledge and everybody
is looking at you.
Where did they bring this one
from?
Now he is in the bible.
Have you read it?
Where is that?
That's why he said I was in the
spirit.
You know this issue of I go
back to what you said earlier.
My husband is not spiritual
enough.
What drastic did you use in
measuring him?
My understanding of being
spiritual is that I'm a spirit.
I'm always connected to the
Holy Spirit Full stop.
I don't need a quiet time to be
spiritual, but I need to
quieten my spirit to be
spiritual, but I need to quieten
my spirit to be spiritual.
I can be in the midst of so
many people.
He's telling me something and
you just see me.
I pick up my book on my phone
and I begin to put down thoughts
.
You know when I wrote my first
book.
Now I know this story very well
.
I did 90% book.
Marissa knows the story very
well.
I did 90% of the writing on the
move.
Either I'm on board or I'm
trying to catch one, this thing
or whatever.
90% the thoughts came.
I now try to slow myself down,
sometimes like on board.
They tell you switch off all
your whatever, forget that thing
.
I really switch my phone off
because that's where it's
flowing.
I now try to slow myself down,
sometimes Like on board.
They tell you switch off all
your whatever, forget that thing
.
I really switch my phone off
because that's where it's
flowing.
I'm serious, I'm not joking,
I'm sorry.
I need to switch my phone off.
I can put it on flight mode,
but switch my phone off.
Nah, I don't do that Because
it's like I'm between the levels
.
It's I see the celestials
coming down and it's just
flowing.
I just pick my phone.
Sometimes I look through the
window.
That's why I like sitting by
the window.
I just see the clouds and it
just begins to flow.
Yeah, I just like.
Okay, I just pick my phone and
I begin to write, begin to write
, begin to write, begin to write
.
In 45 minutes I have put down
three chapters.
I'm not kidding.
So if you're not connected, how
would he give you?
Okay, in English, his language
capacity?
Okay, this room.
What's the capacity of this
room?
It can contain 50 people.
It can contain X amount.
Now bring it, juxtapose it to
kingdom mindset.
Do you have the capacity to
contain the thoughts of God?
Because God cannot fit into
your thoughts.
You need to fit into God's
thoughts.
The capacity is about
connectivity.
The king was going on a journey.
Hold your thoughts, it's coming
.
The king was going on a journey
and he gave his servants
talents, in actual language.
He gave them money.
What is the money for to trade?
The king has a relationship
with his servants.
What is the money for To trade?
The king has a relationship
with his servants.
They have seen him trade.
So he went on a far journey and
he said continue this trade
based on what you have seen me
do.
And he gave them according to
their capacity.
Ability.
That's what the scripture says,
because he knows you.
Scripture says without vision,
my people cast off, restrain or
they perish.
The question is, whose vision?
The scripture says write the
vision, stand on my watch and I
would listen to hear what you
say to me.
Sorry, I will listen to see
what he will say.
So he will be speaking and I
will be catching.
So the vision is not your
thought.
We must start from there.
Let's leave the generic go ye
preach.
Let's leave it that one.
We know the vision.
It is what he is telling you.
So your thought comes to
interact with what you are being
told.
Thank you, it is what God is
telling you.
So, thank you, it is what God
is telling you.
Now let me share this.
My writing did not start today.
My love for words did not start
today.
I had an encounter way back as a
teenager, out of body
experience.
I've had so many of them that
I've even forgotten.
Sometimes he brings it back to
my memory.
But this particular one, I was
praying and it got to this point
where you know you pray and you
get to a point you're praying,
pray and you get to a point
you're praying.
The words are no longer there.
Either they call it groaning or
you just sigh, but I just I
think I sleep.
You know I fell into his sleep
or what I said.
What I saw was I was in a room
and someone I saw.
The impression I got was that's
divinity in the presence of
divinity, and a book was raised
to me.
I can still remember the cover,
the image and everything.
And he said, a voice said it
will come out of you.
Like this, now, like this, I
was lying down, but beneath the
word finished, like this, I was
standing up.
I don't know how I got up, so
writing for me is not difficult.
That's the vision he gave to me
.
Awesome time it has been with
you on the World Cafe podcast
today.
Thank you for being there.
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.
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