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SPEAKER_01: Good morning.
Good afternoon.
Good evening.
Good everything.
Welcome to the World Cafe Live
Show.
This is the space where we're
coming to lean on one another's
experience to forge a positive
path.
Yes.
It's always fun coming in here,
sincerely.
How are you?
How are you doing?
Ah, it's been an amazing season.
You know, amazing season.
You know, the World Cafe turned
five this year.
Yeah.
2026.
Five years of sitting down,
sharing some moments with you.
I mean, each time I go back,
that it happened in March
anyway, it gives me so much joy.
And I'm grateful to God.
Yes.
I often look at the world from a
lens, the lens of we all came
here for a purpose.
SPEAKER_00: We have something to
offer.
And uh not until you discover
it.
SPEAKER_01: Like a wise man
said, abuse is inevitable when
purpose is not found, it's not
discovered.
I want to talk about what I call
today, I want to share with you
what I call African
intelligence.
SPEAKER_00: AI.
SPEAKER_01: Not artificial
intelligence, but the African
intelligence.
SPEAKER_00: Do you know that?
Where Africa is Africa has this
intelligence that has been
ignored, abused, bastardized,
looked down on.
So much so that even Africans
downplay their own intelligence.
Yes.
You downplay it.
Now, what is intelligence to
start with?
SPEAKER_01: What is
intelligence?
Let's leave the dictionary
definitions and all that.
And let us look at it from
observation.
What really is intelligence?
SPEAKER_00: When you look at the
word intelligence, you have, if
you split it, it has a component
called intel.
Then there's a gentlem somewhere
like an agent.
SPEAKER_01: Intelligence.
Okay.
I'm helping you.
This is how I look at words and
begin to get the meaning, in my
opinion, the true meaning.
So when you say intel, it boils
down to what?
Information?
Data.
You know, just like when
security agencies are gathering
intel.
They are gathering information,
they are gathering data.
Now, upon the gathering of this
data, they begin to make
informed decisions.
Like we say, they make
intelligent decisions.
And so when you say something is
intelligent, it means it has a
consciousness, it lives, is
alive, it's aware, it can emote,
it can give off.
SPEAKER_00: So let us bring it
home.
SPEAKER_01: The African
intelligence.
Often we look at our
intelligence as diabolic, as
evil, as I don't like using that
word, but for the lack of better
expression, dark.
SPEAKER_00: You hear things like
dark magic.
And it's like, what do you mean
by dark magic?
SPEAKER_01: I I know there was
this time I sat with my
granddad.
One of these days I'm going to,
it will be an episode on the
show.
I'm going to talk about stories
from my grandparents or from my
granddad.
It will blow your mind.
It will blow your mind like my
grandparents or my mom.
unknown: You know.
SPEAKER_01: So he told us a
story.
He was a fisherman.
Told us a story of his
adventures as in along the
coast.
Now, if you know the map of
Nigeria so well, there's a place
called the Bight of Biafra, is
down south to the Atlantic
Ocean.
Now, when you see how the water
flows from the, there's a place
called the Koto Channel.
I don't have my map here with
me, but I'm just trying to
create it.
The Koto Channel, it flows
through river state from the
brackish water.
Brachish water is simply salt
water.
You know, it flows and somewhere
empties itself along the Orashi
axis.
Pick up your map, you see what
I'm talking about.
The Orashi axis empties into it.
The Orashi is fresh water and it
runs from the Oba Ebi Martin
Doney axis of River State
straight to Choba River.
Then it circles back again.
So you it will go to River
Ninja.
These were points he was
traveling.
And I was like, How do you
navigate all of these things?
He will laugh.
He said, We use the stars as a
guide.
So before I saw most of the
things in uh national geography
and channels and all that, my
granddad taught me all of that.
You know, then how the wind
direction will tell you it's
about to rain.
Or when the wind direction tells
you the where the season is
changing, that's where those of
us in Nigeria will call it the
Hamatan.
So that northeasterly wind blows
all the way from Sahara, goes
through the middle belt, passes
through Inugu Axis, the eastern
axis of Nigeria, then falls into
the Atlantic Ocean.
It causes, brings in the cold
wind.
So the middle belt is now Benwe,
Nasrawa, mostly just plateau,
becomes very cold.
SPEAKER_00: Am I speaking above
your head?
SPEAKER_01: We have an
intelligence.
So this is our problem.
We don't appreciate our
intelligence.
We don't.
And as a result of that, we give
away value freely.
We just give it away, or we
don't even value what we have.
Now, we come to see that you
look at the Western way of
reasoning and Western way of
functioning.
What exactly, what exactly,
okay, data capturing, data
gathering, data collision.
That's intel.
They are gathering it, putting
it together, data
interpretation, interpreting it,
you know, so that the next
generation can capture it and
all that.
But we don't have.
You know, we are more of the uh
storytelling kind of people,
oral information.
So from one generation to the
other, and it disappears.
But again, I I see that lately a
good number of us are beginning
to fight.
The other day I read about fight
in a good sense.
I mean, I read about uh this
name, Dr.
Tam George.
I think that's his name.
One-time commissioner for
information in River State.
He was he won an award.
He was recognized globally.
You know, I've read his works.
I mean, fantastic guy.
I love the way he reasons and
the way he talks.
And I was like, okay, the way he
arranges his thoughts in terms
of intelligence now, the intel,
the data, the information, he
puts it together.
SPEAKER_00: You can see
knowledge expressed.
SPEAKER_01: You can see
intelligence being transmitted
or communicated from one
generation to the other.
So don't forget this: human
beings are creatures of
communication.
Our ability to transcend time is
as a result of the ability to
communicate.
Like verbally, in terms of the
image and all of that.
I mean, we have that in
abundance, but we have been
unable to put this together
effectively, capture it,
transmit it, appreciate it from
one generation to the other.
Now, let me let me cite an
example with or Father Butres,
what I'm saying with this.
The sound from Africa, the kind
of sound, you know, we like
large sound, the percussion, the
drums, the heavy.
So we call it things like afro.
Like the amap, the amapiano
sound from is it South Africa
now or Southern Africa?
Amapiano.
While from Nigeria, we have the
Afro sound.
Like when you listen to Fella's
uh tunes, they call it jazz, as
in in the global scene, but
actually he calls it afro.
And you come to see that when
that those pieces come together,
they are very powerful, vibrant,
heavy.
SPEAKER_00: So imagine we
bringing that into the
education.
Just imagine that for a minute.
Ask yourself that question.
That's it.
SPEAKER_01: And so I feel we
need to appreciate our
intelligence, our AI.
We need to appreciate it.
We need to embrace it in the
right sense, then use it to
better our society.
The African engineering, the
African cuisines, and what have
you, the African uh botany,
African biology, African
geography.
SPEAKER_00: I think there's so
much value there.
SPEAKER_01: I think, in my
opinion, there's so much value
there, but we need to wake up.
All right, guys.
It's always fun coming in here
to excite you for a good reason.
So this is me provoking you.
Yes, this is me provoking you in
a good way.
So go back, query it, and put it
together and appreciate your
intelligence.
Put up your voice out there.
There are places we can we can
go make some bold statements,
you know.
Platforms like LinkedIn, you go
make bold statements.
You write, you put up a thought
there.
You're not there to beat down on
anybody, but it's just to
present your uniqueness.
SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to end
with this.
SPEAKER_01: Each time you look
at yourself as being better than
the next man, you're only
creating an avenue for hate.
SPEAKER_00: But whenever you see
that you are different, you're
only creating an avenue to be
complemented.
Yep.
SPEAKER_01: So they were asking
Mars Davis, the black American
jazz singer, that question.
Like, why are African sounds
better than?
SPEAKER_00: And I said, no, no.
We are not better, we're
different.
You have yours, I have mine.
We're meant to compliment.
Ah, and that's what I want to
end with.
SPEAKER_01: You're different.
So whoever tries to talk down on
you know you are different.
And your difference completes
the world.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you for
listening.
Thank you for being there.
I gotta go now.
Until I come your way again.
My name is Amakri.
Amakri is subway.
Bye for now.